enough is enough

This is my day/life.

I usually go to bed about 9.30/10 o’clock so exhausted I can’t stay awake any longer. In the past I’d have stayed up watching a film or reading a book or something. I fall asleep thinking of all this shit and sleep heavily for a couple of hours. My wife says I sometimes jump or talk in my sleep. My dreams are always of old times and places I’ve not thought of for years – my past life. I’ll sleep fitfully until about 4 and usually get up to pee due to my weakened prostate. I’ll then sleep in 10-20 minute bursts until 7ish and it’ll be time to get up. I’ll lay there for a bit with a burning prostate and tinnitus, muscles twitching and it’s all back on my mind again within seconds. My wife will be singing, my little boy will be jumping about and I’ll be crying inside surrounded by happiness that I can’t enjoy.

In the bathroom I’ll look into baggy hollow dark eyes and shave my sparse beard. I used to enjoy going a couple of days without shaving, had a good beard. Now it’s patchy and full of holes, so are my eyebrows and the sides and back of my head have diffuse thinning. I chuck on some clothes but care little about how I look. After grabbing some breakfast I’ll drive my boy to school and put on an act for his teachers asking about his progress and stuff but not really listening. The brainfog is kicking in now and I’m in a dream state. I get back in the car and cry like a baby most mornings remembering all the great times I had taking him there. I’ll sob on the way to work and sometimes cars honk as I’m driving too slow. I used to have the radio or a cd on but not now, I just can’t enjoy it.

There’s no reprive. It never wanes. I think about this shit 99% of the time. I sometimes compare my life to ‘Sliding Doors’ – what would I be doing/thinking now? My mind is a big problem. It’s almost as if I feel guilty to think about anything different to this. Before this I never had enough time in the day to enjoy all the things I loved – reading, music, films, playing with my son, travel, socialising, football. Now, in this bad dream I have plenty of time. All of those things are what the old me did – there is no enjoyment now. I have no mundane thoughts. I never think of random stuff like I have no neutral gear.

At work I’ll get my head down and do whatever needs doing. Before all of this I’d sometimes browse the net or send stupid mails to my friends. Now the only browsing I do is to do with PFS. People ask me about my weekend or night and I put on a front and make out I’ve had a good time. I don’t care about other people’s lives now really – they’re all smiling and I’m not.

At lunchtime I get in the car and usually have a couple of beers. I’ve recently stopped caring about a strict healthy regime and feel that if this is killing me – which I feel like it is – I may as well have some pleasure. I half-heartedly do a couple of jobs like pay a bill or get some food in for later. Back at work I drift through the afternoon and feel huge fatigue from 2 to 4. When I finally leave I’ll pick my son up and put on the act again of looking happy but feeling shit. My prostate and balls will be burning, the brainfog in place, ears ringing, anxiety at a high and I have to carry on my dad duties. When he’s finally in bed I have a couple more beers and do a lot of staring into space and make broken conversation with my wife. She doesn’t know the truth yet, just thinks I’m a ‘bit tired’. Then I shuffle off to bed and the whole thing is repeated again, day after day after day like Groundhog day. This is my life now.

Maybe once a week I’ll masturbate. A semi-erect dick and some watery semen that trickles out – fantastic. I’m surrounded by all the remnants of happy times – everything I posses was from when I was this different, happy, confident person – not this broken man living a half life. I had so many things to do, my life was on the cusp of something great and now it’s all fucked. I might sound like I’m moaning but most on here can identify with how I’m feeling I’m sure. Even if something does come along to help us all out – as someone else has said – these scars run deep, they’ll never heal. How the fuck do you go from thinking you hair’s thinning out a bit to the verge of suicide in such a short space of time.

As I’ve said to a couple of friends who I’ve shared this with – you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone.

Cut the daily beers. Get out of bed at 6 (one hour earlier) and do a short but intense exercise regime, daily, despite whether you sleep well or not. You’re not going to save yourself in this mindset and with this current daily regime. Make sure the exercise is accessible, like in a local wood or forest, not in some far away gym where you’ll need to get changed etc. I’m talking about straight out of bed, first thing and before eating. Never ever give up. You have a son and wife who need you now and will need you in the future too. Once you get the small daily exercise regime going, NEVER stop, and then start introducing other things that bring small pockets of happiness (it comes easier once you start the exercise trust me).

I’ve been doing this for a few weeks now. I can’t claim I’m recovering, I’m not, however it is having dramatic results as a daily symptom manager - especially in the mental department. I feel so much happiness spending time with my lovely girlfriend. Just seeing her in good health and happy is making me happy, this also gives me the strength to push on and keep trying. Other small areas of enjoyment I get include driving to the countryside on my own to a small spring water fountain and filling up bottles of fresh spring water for the week ahead. This water tastes so good and I enjoy drinking it, it’s much better than any water I have ever tasted. You could take your son and do a similar thing.

These are just small strands of enjoyment that I have found in my new life. You HAVE to find similar things in your own. If you don’t, you’ll only live in this dark and lonely place. If you do, you’ll get by OK. Who knows where it will lead, but atleast you’ll be moving in a more positive direction. Also note that most recoveries included some form of exercise. Leave weights for now, this brings too much stress, just focus on hill sprints and a few Situps, Pressups, squats to start. Skipping is fun too. And this is all before your day has even started at 7. All i am trying to say to you is, accept your situation and now start looking for things that do bring small pleasures. They are there, believe me, you just have to look harder. And once you find them, you’ll notice other positive side benefits. An example of this for me is the urge to put music on again and actually enjoy it. I’ve even found myself humming or singing tunes again.

Start this, trial it for a month and report back with something more positive. You’re in a new world now, try to think of the daily regime as something that everyone (inc normal people) has to do on a daily basis - a kind of “charge the body up” routine that we all have to do to get through the day. This way you won’t feel like it’s a burden, it’s just normal.

I am literally clinging on now. Trying not to make any rash decisions before my new meds get here and the results from Awor’s study are out. If things aren’t better by then i actually feel happy and relieved that i am building the confidence to just end it all.

It’s really just a matter of time for me…it’s hard to believe it came to this, from just being insecure about my hairline. I’ll admit I’m pretty fucking scared.

Guys, there’s a bunch of people looking into our specific problems.

There have been users who have credited “time” with their recoveries, or at least, improvements.

We all gotta realize that our bodies are suboptimal right now and messing with our thoughts.

We’re not thinking clearly at all.

Let’s all just chill and let this black cloud pass. Things will seem better in a few days.

Absolutely agree.

D.holiday & ChrisC, go for a run everytime you feel bad. If you feel bad all the time then go for a run all the time. Make the time for this sort of thing, it really helps. If you stop, you’ll likely feel bad again so you must keep going. Chris, looking back at your posts it seems you were doing some exercise and seemed to be doing alot better back then. Why stop? Who knows what might happen if you keep it up long term. I’m talking about years here… that might be what it takes. Years of conditioning and upregulation.

Maybe it’s too simple for people to appreciate, and my apologies if I am banging on about something people already know, but daily exercise is about the best thing any of us can do. It has to be daily though to maintain the levels. It feels like a lifelong travellator, but I am all for it if I can function on a daily basis and enjoy things. It has also increased my appetite, improved my digestion and left more saliva in my mouth. Vision still sucks though but I’m over this.

Hero

putting things into perspective didn’t happen to me until about 23 years old when I GENUINELY realized I was the uncle to a 2 year old and infant twins. They literally made me grow as a person. I wanted to be everything to them, and I was for about a year before I mentally crashed. Every chance I got I would drive to my sisters to help her out with her three boys. I felt so much love for them and wanted to always be there. Their pain was my pain.

Since I’ve mentally crashed and can no longer comprehend much love, this adds to the guilt because I was NEVER this way. Just four hours ago one of the twins (2 years old now) had a bad reaction to some medication. He literally stopped breathing and was going into a seizure. My mother and sister were freaking out. My reaction was concerned but not what it should have been. WTF have I turned into? Sure I got scared but not to the degree of what I should have been. I took the matter into my own hands and did some things I learned when I was a lifeguard and got him to start breathing clearly. We rushed him to the hospital and he is fine now. I had a pit in my stomach but nothing what it should have felt like. Will it always be this way?..Does anybody else feel they have grown THIS dense? It’s as if I can’t feel reality. I’m watching things happen but I don’t feel it. I’m like a fucking robot. When I was normal, if one of my nephews got a scrape on their leg I would stop the world.

Sitting outside the hospital I did do some thinking and because of what just happened did settle some things that were done to me while I was in my Propeciated state of mind. I’m just disappointed because my concern was no where near what it should have felt like. This makes me hate myself. I’d rather have my soul back than a hard-on.

And thanks to the guys carrying on better attitudes than myself for trying to pick others like me up. Much appreciated and more respect to you.

Just picked my nephew and sister up from the hospital…seeing him smile again makes me realize what we could have lost…i do feel love for THEM but it’s still not the same.

Shit isn’t it.

Try to stay strong Chris, some people make big improvements around the 2-3 year mark and from what i can gather you have been off for 1 year. You should seriously consider informing your partner about this too.

Couldn’t agree more. Hang on in guys.

Buddy, think that if you weren’t so cold blooded now, maybe you wouldn t have helped your nephew so well. You could have freaked out and your emotions interfered in how you gave him the first aid procedures. There s always two sides to any situation. There are professions and situations in which this new characteristic we have is very important.
I am learning there are advantages of being not so emotional. I used to care too much for what people could say about me. I used to be intimidated in some situations. I used to avoid some situations to avoid people s reaction. Now, i am indifferent to all of that. And other situations i can’t remember now. Doesn’t that make me a stronger person? I know it is awful to think you don’t feel as much love as you used too, but if you just continue to be a positive presence in their lives, their love towards you will still be the same. Good luck!

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I just sent you a PM. I am here for you buddy, if you need to talk.

UK20,

It might do you some good to take a break from the forum for a few days at least. It can be very over whelming spending too much time thinking about the devastation the drug has done.

I have found taking a couple of days away from the forum can help. Push yourself to go for a walk or do some low impact exercise. It’s certainly not easy to motivate yourself to do it when you’re in this state, but I usually seem to find a way to do something. “just do it”

I know this is an old thread, but to the OP if your still around on this site, I had the most disturbing/freaky lucid dream. I took a nap earlier after not sleeping well. I realized I was dreaming at one point, but i couldnt wake up! I stopped trying and once that happened shit got crazy. It was like uncontrollable images and I felt like I would talk to someone then they morphed into someone else. Everything I looked at started changing to another scene. Then I saw my arm/body and it would change into weird patterns. It was indescribable. I finally felt myself in my bed and I tried screaming and using all my energy to lift my head from my pillow. Seemed to last for many minutes! Then finally my eyes popped open. THen I spent like another 10 minutes trying to wake up, i felt like my brain was still in sleep mode. Wierdest shit Ive ever had happen. Ive had sleep paralysis before and I know its just the state of slowly waking up, but this was truly rediculous!

He’s not around much. He didn’t off himself, I still have his phone #, and spoke with him a few months ago… he says he actually got better… but he claims it was through his faith in god.

No I’m not joking.

Well, good thing he got better, sounds like he was bad off.

看这些老贴子,比自己想再说一点什么更有意义,因为他们早已经表达出了我想说的一切,所以我们很庆幸现在已经比当初有了更多的希望,我们需要支持那些为大家作出贡献的人 :heart:

时间是很宝贵的,虽然看上去很长久,但很容易被浪费,哪怕一个健康的人也是如此,终老一生,一事无成,让我们做点有意义的事,十年很快就过去了,不是吗?