ECT electroconvulsive shock treatment as therapy

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#29

vanquish could you please ask if its a cyp3a4 metabolised medicine.
better yet, ask the name of the molecule

#30

She’s at work now, I’ll ask this evening and let you know.

#31

drugs.com/international/suxamethonium.html

is what she said.

#32

Does that mean that because drug addicts are constantly taking drugs that their bodies adapt and kinda of go into overdrive in order to remove the drug from their systems?

Are you taking any other prescription medications or are you on a herb cycling protocol of any kind that could possible explain this? Do you drink?

I feel like there is a chance that you may be onto to something huge with this. First off tell these doctors that you would be willing to submit to a drug test to prove that you are not taking drugs. Next tell them that you would be willing to submit to on going drug tests if they would be willing to use their resources and connections to investigate this further. They are obviously interested in why you are not responding to drugs normally. If you already have their attention perhaps all you need now is their trust which you could get by the drug screening offer.

Ask them if they can test you extensively for any evidence of a DHT inhibitor being stuck in your body that maybe your body is in constant overdrive mode trying to get rid of. Maybe we all have leaky gut syndrome and the DHT inhibitor leaked out of our intestines into our blood stream and our livers can’t flush it. Or maybe the finasteride permanently binded to the 5ar enzymes or receptors and our bodies see this as being a drug that constantly needs for be “flushed” like we just took it.

It’s a long shot but either way if your abnormal reaction to getting put under has their attention take advantage of it.

Please keep us posted with this. Sorry you have to go through this.

#33

Hello. I visited the forum today after some time and I don’t remember posting any of these, since ECT causes partial amnesia. I’ll have to speak to my niece to be able to answer your questions. By the way, I don’t recommend anybody try ECT, it made me feel horrible, I was banging my head to walls 10 days ago. It made no changes whatsoever in PFS symptoms either. I feel better now, like pre-ECT.

In other news, my endocrinologist had sent me to a stem cell doctor on monday. The stem cell doctor told me that they could probably try stem cell treatment on me (using stem cells from donor placenta). I told her my story and she said that she’ll let me know after discussing it with my endocrinologist and other doctors.

One of the interesting things that she has told me is that sexual function is a “luxury” to the body, which means that when there is severe trauma to the body, it’s the first thing that gets shut down while the body attempts to repair itself.

I’ll let you know when I have more news and info…

@5 alpha victim: I rarely drink, I don’t smoke and I wasn’t using any drugs or herbs.

#34

this is a much better option than ECT. i think this kind of treatments has thepotential to cure, and there has been one person on this forum at least who tried it with what seemed like very good results

#35

The stem cell doctor wanted me to send her an e-mail, telling my whole PFS story from the beginning. I sent it yesterday. I hope they accept to give me this treatment.

#36

I theorized about this a couple of times. 2 days after i stopped finasteride i got hyper sexual in the evening, next day everything was gone. Could it be that our livers are just hyper excreting/conversing our hormones that were affected by finasteride so that we are left without any? I think this could be a very possible explanation of pfs.

#37

Same thing happened to me PFF with the hyper-sexualness after quitting. What does this mean?

#38

So I spoke to my niece today, and she said that it doesn’t necessarily mean something, it could happen in people who have used a lot of drugs, or that some people just have faster liver metabolism. She said that she sees the same in her patients often.

#39

thanks for the feedback

#40

Thanks for the feedback. Your a warrior.

#41

indeed he is!

#42

Your not alone. It most likely is. Doctors, had trouble putting me under anesthesia, for an endoscopy procedure, which I had done a few months ago. I developed painful esophagitis(inflamation of the esophagal lining), two months after a testosterone injection, that made me much worse.
Doctors, had to use alot of anesthesia to put me to sleep. They were surprised, as this is highly unusual. I’ve had cognitive dysfunction, and have been disabled from propecia usage, for the past 9 years.

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#43

have you asked the meaning of this? we now have two cases. If we could find more of these maybe it would give us a clue. The ultimate test would be a pfs guy that would get a liver transplant.

#44

viewtopic.php?f=3&p=105317#p105317
high liver enzyes. I’ve read some other stories of high liver enzymes indicating damage also on fin. I am sure I was fcking up my liver too during finasteride use on a vacation. my hangovers were insane and I could not hande booze in any way. I know it does not say much, but if we can find many more of these cases we maybe have something to investigate.

#45

It’s more likely that the problem with the anesthesia is due to our changed neurosteroids/receptor functions because anesthesia mainly acts at the GABA-A receptors.
Therefore also some guys can’t get trunk anymore.

#46

trunk == drunk ? I also have hard time to get drunk

#47

Drunk :smiley: Brainfog…

#48

I agree. liver damage is easy to see on labs which is why it’s safe to assume that patterns of liver damage would have been found already in a majority of us. It’s most likely the brain. Probable neurosteriods/receptors. Same reason why we don’t respond to other things the same way mentally.