[i]All,
I asked Dynaaminen from the old Yahoo group to paste the following here, but he has not done so as of yet.
I have thus copied and pasted his message as below, on his behalf. Hopefully he will be able to join us and provide further insights.[/i]
Sun May 6, 2007 6:30 am
Hi,
I have been now approximately 1,5 months on TRT (Testogel), 2,5
months on progesterone and I recently added phenylalanine to my
existing tyrosine intake for raising dopamine. I also eat daily one
capsule of acetyl-l-carnitine with alpha lipoic acid in it to boost
acetylcholine. If I get a feeling of a crash in my brain sometimes,
I usually get rid of it with green tea and eating something small. I
do not know if that is due to green tea’s l-theanine that is
balancing my adrenals, or the small amount of caffeine in it that
forces adrenals to work overtime, but I am well again after a few
cups.
Erections are getting better. On some good days I can get
spontaneous erections out of nowhere just by sitting watching 5
o’clock news or whatever non-sexual. Morning erections are quite
frequent also. Erection strength is also better than before, but it
still lacks the final strength to call it normal. I also feel less
anxiety in my mind and can concentrate better.
However, I have no idea what will happen when I some day quit TRT. I
also am not sure how much my adrenals are really recovering right
now. For example I still fail the adrenal fatigue pupil constricting
test. I start working in 1,5 weeks, so luckily that is going to put
my sleep cycle back on track, which will probably be beneficial.
I hope this progress lasts.
[i]My followup reply to his message:
Re: TRT, progesterone and dopamine protocol report
Hi Dyna,
Thanks for the update. Please share this with us over at the new
forum as well… good to know how your progress is coming.
How is your sex drive? Hav you thought abotu stopping Progesterone
and seeing if that helps things further (Progesterone inhibits 5AR)?
Mew[/i]
Mon May 7, 2007 2:44 am
Sex drive is good, when I am able to have erections. They seem to go
hand in hand.
I have never been very concerned about progesterone limiting 5AR.
After all, without sufficient amount of progesterone, 5AR cannot
convert it into allopregnenolone to repair the GABA pathways in the
brain. If GABA is low -> anxiety high, that burns dopamine and
acetylcholine, which results in worse exhaustion. It think that I am
just supplying progesterone to make it be at normal levels, but this
is just a guess, because I did not test my progesterone levels
before starting progesterone cream.
If the progress keeps going on, I might use TRT and progesterone up
to 4-6 months. I also have to consult with my doctor about
continuing TRT when doing check-up blood tests next month. Wasn’t
there this guy Killswitch on meso forum that recovered from propecia
via 4-5 months of TRT? In addition to this, one guy here recovered
after months on Proviron, so possibly raising DHT levels might be
one key, since both TRT and Proviron make DHT levels higher.
[i]Killswitch was on hairlosshelp.com, you can read his story in the
Recoveries section of propeciahelp.com
Be careful if you plan on trying Proviron as it may have an
inhibitory effect on T production (body senses increased DHT, lowers
T to compensate)…
Mew[/i]