Developed TMJ on propecia (linked to female hormones of prog/estrogen)
Developed Melasma on propecia (read journal article linking Finasteride to increase of Melasma with men and an imbalance of prog/estrogen)
Dentist- told me has only seen such bleeding at a routine cleaning from women in their 2nd trimester of pregnancy
Eustachian tube dysfunction (linked to pregnant women with hormonal swings)
Thyrpid dysfunction (impaired thyrpid function, cold hands, loss of arm hair etc, yet many people have normal thyroid numbers yet with ED you will have impaired function with normal numbers)
Testosterone-estrogen binds to receptors suppressing testo for many
GERD, digestion issues, cuticles on nails cracking, bloating etc all linked to estrogen
Probably have another 100 reasons if you care for me to go on
Finbasteride, you are a MUPPET, how come then every single fucking doctor treating this is using an AI? Your estrogen is low because your testosterone is low and thus isn’t converting to estrogen, you are a liar, I don’t believe anything you say. No one has posted about this protocol yet, another lie, you are a junky and a muppet and a liar. All you do is get high and come on here and rant and rave and insult people, you are the reason I don’t come on as much anymore. I don’t want to see your illogical nonsense, it is estrogen at the neurosteroidal level and this isn’t a fucking theory. It has been proven, these crashes ARE estrogen, if they weren’t, arimidex wouldn’t reverse them in me and many others, so go back under your bridge you muppet troll.
Me too, they don’t mean anything to me but they piss the Brits off to no end and provide me with hours of amusement (and others here) lol. Finbasteride bashes my protocol but his is xanax and booze, 1 xanax every hour and 1 alcohol shot per hour lol
He is such a bloody muppet cunt, bullocks!!!
It’s “Bollocks” it means testicles. Some of us Brits actually like you bro, just cause a couple of us are pretty moody there’s plenty others who’re patiently watching how your protocol unravels. I’m doing fine going the natural route but some of us are more screwed than others.
I know it’s only a few bad apples, I get tons of messages every day from nice British guys and I do a lot of business with the UK, doesn’t mesn I can’t make fun of finbasteride back lol
Wrong on many accounts again. Docs treating pfs are generally aiming to raise endogenous t without it aromatising to e and imhibiting t. They use either pct type drugs or trt. Ai helps to raise endogenous t alone. In the presence of increased t from pct/trt, ai reduces aromatization to e and its countering effect. I m sure most on the board know this its pretty standard hrt stuff.
I have mid-high t so wrong on that count too.
I don’t do heroin and haven’t taken a benzo in about 3 weeks. I only drink at the weekend usually.
Nobody has corroborated your results depite your claims otherwise.
The reason I hassle you so much is because you have been here 5 mins in comparison to others and claim to be an all knowing, greater in mind, body and soul character. While Many others have seen little to no long lasting effect from such treatments. Including the pfs docs, who I can assure you will not be prescribing hourly doses of arimidex.
You may mean well in some instances but a lot of that meaning is lost in your egotistical and arrogant claims of being an all curing saviour which no doubt grates with a lot of the guys who ve been here much longer…
I do however agree with you on one aspect that this may well be a neurotransmitter/receptor issue albeit not estrogen which is not a neurotransmitter. Could it be from unopposed E indirectly affecting neurochemistry? Perhaps. But it could be a million other things indirectly acting after 5ar inhibition. However, 5ar directly inhibits several neurosteroids and a direct root cause is more usually an issue than an indirect one. Fin is like pooring glue in a watch mechansim. I affects many different moving parts profoundly so for you to narrow it down based on your experience alone with arimidex alone is a giantly arrogant leap.
Advising people, when you are not medically qualified to order drugs online and consume them far above normal medically theraputic levels is scandalous and should not be allowed on the forum. I know you are not FORCING them to take the drugs but you are medically advising them beyond what an endocrinologist would. This is plain wrong as many men have worsened their state by taking medical advice from “online experts”
Please see my next post below. Its one of many of its kind.
THIS IS WHY I GIVE YOU A HARD TIME, QUESTION YOUR CONSISTENCY AND THE CREDIBILITY OF YOUR POSTS.
Here is a post by user westside regarding taking online advice regarding self treatment. Just backing up my above statements with some evidence. Something jqd never does.
"If you want to learn something from my experience learn this. All the additional setbacks I’ve had over the years have been because of things I’ve used to try and fix myself. After my initial crash I was an 8 out of 10. I’ve come onto this board over the years and tried things I’ve read on here. All they have ever done is consistently have the opposite effect intended. Creatine, maca, etc all these things I’ve added to the mix out of desperation from this board have consistently made me permanently worse.
It makes me mad and concerned when I see people on this board who have been here for a mere few months coming on here proclaiming to people they found the cure and recommend to everyone to start taking this or that. They say things like “why not try it we’ve got nothing to loose”. Yes you do have something to loose, you have no idea the depths that are there.
Start eating right going for walks in the sun. Quit alcohol, caffeine, masturbation any stimulants or drugs. Guys here feel the need to take this and try that out of desperation to get better. I’ve been there and trust me that’s not the path to healing. Our bodies are overwhelmed and struggle to maintain basic healthy functions. Adding things to our already overworked systems will fuck you up."
Finbasteride, you can’t expect to come on here insulting and ranting and raving high on who knows what, then one day you come on sober and expect to have credibility. You are 1 voice, the majority on this board are in support of me. Most importantly, you leave out of your argument a very crucial piece of information. Look at the title of this thread, I am referring people to dr Jacobs to treat them. So your argument is bunk, how can you compare me to every other jackass who has found a “cure,” when dr Jacobs, a neuroendocrinologist treating this condition is now prescribing guys my protocol? He is prescribing guys arimidex 3x a day 1mg along with propionate. At a dosing of 10mg of prop every other day this should work.
I have had this in reverse for 3 months, so comparing me to other “cures,” is ridiculous considering one of the doctors on this forum is now using my protocol, don’t believe me? Go ask him, so you are just attacking me to attack me when I have found a way to help people. I am going to constantly work on newer and better approaches till my system recovers. Discount me all you want, but I am trying to help people, you offer nothing but insults. If I took your advice and let you get me down, dr Jacobs wouldn’t be prescribing this protocol and many guys wouldn’t have a chance.
Progress in treating this is being made, yes it’s the first step because no one else has taken one but me, so unless you have any better ideas or ways to treat this, shut up, I have credibility of dr Jacobs is prescribing this.
Also, I haven’t told people to buy stuff off the net, I told them to go to dr Jacobs, but not everyone can afford to do that, so I am offering people an option. You would do this forum a lot of good if you became a lurker, you have nothing of consequence to add, in your few moments of sobriety out of mostly drugged up insults and ranting. You got fucked up on drugs and told everyone that I asked you over my house with rent boys or some nonsense, you remember that? You are an abusive addict and you need to stop abusing me when I’m helping people. You are the reason I’m spending less time on here, and since you have nothing to offer anyone, you should be ashamed.
Not addressing anything I stated merely trying to attack me and failing miserably I might add.
How can I compare you to every other jackass who has posted a cure? I don’t your well beneath them in my and many others opinions. The jackasses who have posted a cure don t arrogantly claim so like you nor have they changed their tune more times than a radio.
You don’t have the support of the board as you claim and YOU have also been pming websites for victims to buy drugs online so they can try your protocol. Its in your post history and my inbox so no need to lie.
I haven’t been keeping up as much lately, but I have not seen anybody who has taken your suggestions or even had any improvements.
I don’t know the extent of what you discussed with Dr. Jacobs, but I have yet to see evidence that anybody has begun experimented with “your” protocol through him. Can you provide any evidence at this point?
I get about 20 messages a day, have to delete them so more come as my inbox is full, plenty writing me that they tried it and it’s working. Some have used variations of my theories and used clomid or test boosters instead, using arimidex as needed with good results. They are not posting just private messaging me, so since they want to keep their progress private and not defend me publically, I started posting some of their messages. Most say they don’t want to post publically due to the way guys treat me on this forum and they don’t want to be attacked.
The discussion is here viewtopic.php?f=27&t=9865&start=580
From now on I’m not doing private messages, only telling people to post to that thread, but I’ll post a couple messages here so you can see
I don’t know what to say… I see that you receive a lot of private messages on the forum and there are two guys that report ‘feeling better’ without describing symptoms specifically. It isn’t really even right that you appear to have posted Newbie’s PM without his permission. Neither of them even look like they are taking your ‘protocol’ but I haven’t kept up to date because it has changed an unreasonable amount of times. Newbie is taking clomid and arimidex which is a frequently tested cocktail on this forum - it did not work for myself as I previously said.
Also there is also no evidence that Dr. Jacobs is prescribing your drugs let alone having any success.
I don’t really believe that guys are unwilling to post here because they don’t want to elicit the same response that you have. This would not happen unless they start proselytizing their solution as the ultimate solution. I’m rooting for you, but you really haven’t presented anything persuasive yet.
You are behind man, just read my other thread and catch up, I can't keep explaining the same things over again, these guys are following my theories and improving. Many guys are on my protocol, no one wants to post so I started posting messages to prove I wasn't lying. I have 2 very well known people from this forum waiting for their propionate to come in and will be starting my protocol and posting. You have to catch up, you are way behind on this.
No evidence that dr Jacobs is prescribing my protocol? You calling me a liar? Plenty of guys have already started it and onboard with him. Mew would have deleted this thread and banned me if it weren't true. It's not arimidex or clomid that's doing it, it's the principals I won't explain again. Get caught up and I'll be happy to help you, arimidex will not work if not used properly as needed to combat estrogen dominance (aka pfs crash symptoms). I get dozens of messages from guys recovering from this, propionate and shorter ester forms of test are all that work. You have to get caught up man, it's not that simple.
