Finbasteride, this is for you
I know itās only a few bad apples, I get tons of messages every day from nice British guys and I do a lot of business with the UK, doesnāt mesn I canāt make fun of finbasteride back lol
Wrong on many accounts again. Docs treating pfs are generally aiming to raise endogenous t without it aromatising to e and imhibiting t. They use either pct type drugs or trt. Ai helps to raise endogenous t alone. In the presence of increased t from pct/trt, ai reduces aromatization to e and its countering effect. I m sure most on the board know this its pretty standard hrt stuff.
I have mid-high t so wrong on that count too.
I donāt do heroin and havenāt taken a benzo in about 3 weeks. I only drink at the weekend usually.
Nobody has corroborated your results depite your claims otherwise.
The reason I hassle you so much is because you have been here 5 mins in comparison to others and claim to be an all knowing, greater in mind, body and soul character. While Many others have seen little to no long lasting effect from such treatments. Including the pfs docs, who I can assure you will not be prescribing hourly doses of arimidex.
You may mean well in some instances but a lot of that meaning is lost in your egotistical and arrogant claims of being an all curing saviour which no doubt grates with a lot of the guys who ve been here much longerā¦
I do however agree with you on one aspect that this may well be a neurotransmitter/receptor issue albeit not estrogen which is not a neurotransmitter. Could it be from unopposed E indirectly affecting neurochemistry? Perhaps. But it could be a million other things indirectly acting after 5ar inhibition. However, 5ar directly inhibits several neurosteroids and a direct root cause is more usually an issue than an indirect one. Fin is like pooring glue in a watch mechansim. I affects many different moving parts profoundly so for you to narrow it down based on your experience alone with arimidex alone is a giantly arrogant leap.
Advising people, when you are not medically qualified to order drugs online and consume them far above normal medically theraputic levels is scandalous and should not be allowed on the forum. I know you are not FORCING them to take the drugs but you are medically advising them beyond what an endocrinologist would. This is plain wrong as many men have worsened their state by taking medical advice from āonline expertsā
Please see my next post below. Its one of many of its kind.
THIS IS WHY I GIVE YOU A HARD TIME, QUESTION YOUR CONSISTENCY AND THE CREDIBILITY OF YOUR POSTS.
Here is a post by user westside regarding taking online advice regarding self treatment. Just backing up my above statements with some evidence. Something jqd never does.
"If you want to learn something from my experience learn this. All the additional setbacks Iāve had over the years have been because of things Iāve used to try and fix myself. After my initial crash I was an 8 out of 10. Iāve come onto this board over the years and tried things Iāve read on here. All they have ever done is consistently have the opposite effect intended. Creatine, maca, etc all these things Iāve added to the mix out of desperation from this board have consistently made me permanently worse.
It makes me mad and concerned when I see people on this board who have been here for a mere few months coming on here proclaiming to people they found the cure and recommend to everyone to start taking this or that. They say things like āwhy not try it weāve got nothing to looseā. Yes you do have something to loose, you have no idea the depths that are there.
Start eating right going for walks in the sun. Quit alcohol, caffeine, masturbation any stimulants or drugs. Guys here feel the need to take this and try that out of desperation to get better. Iāve been there and trust me thatās not the path to healing. Our bodies are overwhelmed and struggle to maintain basic healthy functions. Adding things to our already overworked systems will fuck you up."
He claims to be 1.5 out of 10 now.
Here is the link
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=9777&hilit=worsening
You will find many like it just by punching in āworseningā into the search engine.
Finbasteride, you canāt expect to come on here insulting and ranting and raving high on who knows what, then one day you come on sober and expect to have credibility. You are 1 voice, the majority on this board are in support of me. Most importantly, you leave out of your argument a very crucial piece of information. Look at the title of this thread, I am referring people to dr Jacobs to treat them. So your argument is bunk, how can you compare me to every other jackass who has found a ācure,ā when dr Jacobs, a neuroendocrinologist treating this condition is now prescribing guys my protocol? He is prescribing guys arimidex 3x a day 1mg along with propionate. At a dosing of 10mg of prop every other day this should work.
I have had this in reverse for 3 months, so comparing me to other ācures,ā is ridiculous considering one of the doctors on this forum is now using my protocol, donāt believe me? Go ask him, so you are just attacking me to attack me when I have found a way to help people. I am going to constantly work on newer and better approaches till my system recovers. Discount me all you want, but I am trying to help people, you offer nothing but insults. If I took your advice and let you get me down, dr Jacobs wouldnāt be prescribing this protocol and many guys wouldnāt have a chance.
Progress in treating this is being made, yes itās the first step because no one else has taken one but me, so unless you have any better ideas or ways to treat this, shut up, I have credibility of dr Jacobs is prescribing this.
Also, I havenāt told people to buy stuff off the net, I told them to go to dr Jacobs, but not everyone can afford to do that, so I am offering people an option. You would do this forum a lot of good if you became a lurker, you have nothing of consequence to add, in your few moments of sobriety out of mostly drugged up insults and ranting. You got fucked up on drugs and told everyone that I asked you over my house with rent boys or some nonsense, you remember that? You are an abusive addict and you need to stop abusing me when Iām helping people. You are the reason Iām spending less time on here, and since you have nothing to offer anyone, you should be ashamed.
Not addressing anything I stated merely trying to attack me and failing miserably I might add.
How can I compare you to every other jackass who has posted a cure? I donāt your well beneath them in my and many others opinions. The jackasses who have posted a cure don t arrogantly claim so like you nor have they changed their tune more times than a radio.
You donāt have the support of the board as you claim and YOU have also been pming websites for victims to buy drugs online so they can try your protocol. Its in your post history and my inbox so no need to lie.
You going to apologize now that people have come forward saying they are improving?
I havenāt been keeping up as much lately, but I have not seen anybody who has taken your suggestions or even had any improvements.
I donāt know the extent of what you discussed with Dr. Jacobs, but I have yet to see evidence that anybody has begun experimented with āyourā protocol through him. Can you provide any evidence at this point?
I get about 20 messages a day, have to delete them so more come as my inbox is full, plenty writing me that they tried it and itās working. Some have used variations of my theories and used clomid or test boosters instead, using arimidex as needed with good results. They are not posting just private messaging me, so since they want to keep their progress private and not defend me publically, I started posting some of their messages. Most say they donāt want to post publically due to the way guys treat me on this forum and they donāt want to be attacked.
The discussion is here
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=9865&start=580
From now on Iām not doing private messages, only telling people to post to that thread, but Iāll post a couple messages here so you can see
Here is a sample of what my inbox looks like, this is after I deleted all my messages to make room for more
I donāt know what to sayā¦ I see that you receive a lot of private messages on the forum and there are two guys that report āfeeling betterā without describing symptoms specifically. It isnāt really even right that you appear to have posted Newbieās PM without his permission. Neither of them even look like they are taking your āprotocolā but I havenāt kept up to date because it has changed an unreasonable amount of times. Newbie is taking clomid and arimidex which is a frequently tested cocktail on this forum - it did not work for myself as I previously said.
Also there is also no evidence that Dr. Jacobs is prescribing your drugs let alone having any success.
I donāt really believe that guys are unwilling to post here because they donāt want to elicit the same response that you have. This would not happen unless they start proselytizing their solution as the ultimate solution. Iām rooting for you, but you really havenāt presented anything persuasive yet.
You are behind man, just read my other thread and catch up, I can't keep explaining the same things over again, these guys are following my theories and improving. Many guys are on my protocol, no one wants to post so I started posting messages to prove I wasn't lying. I have 2 very well known people from this forum waiting for their propionate to come in and will be starting my protocol and posting. You have to catch up, you are way behind on this.
No evidence that dr Jacobs is prescribing my protocol? You calling me a liar? Plenty of guys have already started it and onboard with him. Mew would have deleted this thread and banned me if it weren't true. It's not arimidex or clomid that's doing it, it's the principals I won't explain again. Get caught up and I'll be happy to help you, arimidex will not work if not used properly as needed to combat estrogen dominance (aka pfs crash symptoms). I get dozens of messages from guys recovering from this, propionate and shorter ester forms of test are all that work. You have to get caught up man, it's not that simple.I am definitely not calling you a liar but your behavior has been very erratic which makes it difficult to believe some of the things you say. You wouldnāt necessarily be banned if it was not true that Dr. Jacobs was prescribing your treatments. The claims are difficult to verify, short of contacting Dr. Jacobs.
So far, I havenāt seen anybody publicly post on here that they are trying out your suggestions with improvement or that they are trying out your suggestions through Dr. Jacobs. No need to re-explain anything, but it would be helpful if you would provide more clear references.
A lot of guys on here are unfortunately very desperate and not mentally stable Even if the treatment turns out to not be very helpful, at least initially you would expect a bunch of guys to report improvements just out of hope.
You havenāt been here in a while, the views on this board of me have changed quite a bit in the last month. I suggest you read my other thread starting on page 3, there is a lot of info that will bring you up to date. I have figured out pfs with the best working theory and so far dr Jacobs is prescribing my protocol. Iām working with 2 very active and negative posters here who will be posting after they are ready to.
Just read it man, you are behind, others operating off of my theories have improved dramatically, I know you tried working with test in the past. I found a way to get guys to respond to test with pfs, it requires a special ester of test, just read the other thread.
Iāll be happy to answer any of your questions after you read it, but the forum is a very different view of me now since you were here last.
Can I ask where does Dr Jacobs get testosterone propionate from ?
From what I can see this product is only available on the black market.
Does any major pharmaceutical company make it ?
He didn't know where to get it, I gave him the name of a compound pharmacy in Florida that services high end HRT doctors and has it, I have no idea why or how they have it. While dr Jacobs agreed it has great potential uses for some other conditions as well, I can't imagine any doctors being familiar with it, nevertheless it's here today in my hands via prescription. Even though I have plenty on the black market, I wanted a script too, there is even a better form of test I'm working on getting, but won't have my hands on it for a month and I don't know if it's available by prescription. In the meantime this is and it works, it's what I'm using, it will get you out of this fucking pfs shit hole till I figure something even better out or others add to it.
I don't know about you, but I don't have the strength to go on with pfs, I just don't, I don't know how you guys do it, that's why I had to find a way out of this. It would be immoral for me not to do whatever I could to help others here. Nothing is coming from doctors, this is where it ends Mark, right here, I'm it, no one has anything better. So if everyone joins in then we can work together to find even better approaches. I'm so happy to hear from guys using my theories and protocols to work with clomid or test boosters as opposed to propionate, that's the spirit! In a few months this forum won't be a hopeless place, but a venue for us to be sharing new and improved versions of this protocol.
No one need live like this anymore, even if it's only 50% effective for you, it's certainly better than the alternative, and everything I know tells me this will speed up the healing process not slow it.Just about any compounding pharmacy should be able make it.