Does anyone know what particularly in your body gives your penis sensitivity?

General Discussion
#15

prop,
thanks for listing all the nerves. Very interesting. Have you tested all those nerves.
I have done two tests with two different doctors and all turnde out fine. However, I don’t know if they have tested all those nerves.

One question to Dr. Traish:
“Traish thinks that may be because nerves that are maintained by dihydrotestosterone become permanently degraded and can’t be repaired even after men come off the medication.”

Does anyone know if we can test for nerve damage induced by a lack of DHT? I guess not.

#16

hi keepup
how r u?

i haven’t tested yet but i want to
however before i have to convince my gp to prescribe them.
hard task

here few people getsome of these test,
but came out some damage

problem is, there r helping drugs for nerves ?

just lurking some pudendal nerve forum and a minority have our problems

#17

Do you know what effects those nerves specifically prop? Like what is the precursor to those nerves. I’m just trying to find out what exactly is the cause of the numbness, and than work your way up the line fixing each step.

#18

sorry bryce, i have lack of knowledge

i just opened a 3d on nerve tests because i was wondering why nobody pay a proper attention on some objective data.

here only hormons test r widely discussed, but what about nerve tests?

a fresh approach focused on pelvic floor area is needed

if my gp accord me a visit to an neuro uro, i will gladly share my exp

#19

right, i agree theres multiple factors much more complicated than simply hormones, however, because the penis numbness and flucation is affecting mostly the penis itself, it tells me that the hormones play a large part. like how Mew is talking about DHT being lost, DHT/test have a large part in making nitric oxide, than it moves down the line, etc.

somethign is obviously not being synthesized correctly or being used correctly or something. i;m wondering maybe if it makes more sense to look into how the hormones or synthesized or how they are actually used, but based on people’s DHT/test levels… it seems to be normal… so I’m wondering if we work down the line from DHT/test and up the line from specific whatever it is that actually causes penile numbness, we’ll find the issue where stuff isn’t firing right… i just need to know what to look for… at this point, my best guess is still nitric oxide because numbness starts inside the penis, than works it way out to skin.

#20

i don’t know bryce, but i guess by forum experiences that standard hormonal tests are useless.

imao only hi research test could show the root cause (they r working at), but we have to deal with damaged parts so best for us is target exactly parts involved

this is possible only with objective data from specific area tests

so, if the numbness is a widespread symptom, is necessary to spend more time on nerve tests then tring to cure that parts (if possible)

#21

This is an interesting quote that I don’t think has been discussed in detail (or maybe I missed it). There are drugs that attempt to repair nerve damage, at least from diabetes induced nerve damage. (duloxetine or pregabalin per attached link on trying to repair nerve damage). Has anyone tried to utilize a nerve repair protocol?
ehow.com/how_5523305_repair-nerve-damage.html

If we believe what Dr. Traish theorized to be true then I wonder if the 5 or so scientific studies that are being undertaken are looking into identifing what nerves have been damaged and the possibilty of repair?

#22

Hi prop,
I am worse than ever…
Could you provide a link of the pudendal nerve forum.
Good to hear from you and thanks for the input regarding nerves. Hope you cope somehow.

BadLuck,
very good idea to try a nerve repair protocol. So far I have not heared of a person here trying it. We should follow that path!

#23

This is the million dollar question as far as I’m concerned… and it’s my chief concern right now. I’ve trawled the interwebs on many a Saturday night trying to crack this nut. Never thought I’d ever have to spend so much time reading about male sexuality but I guess this is one of the many joys of PFS :neutral_face:

Here’s what I’ve come up with so far (I suspect none of this will really be news to you guys); There are a few potential angles to explore in terms of finding a solution. Hormonally the consensus among the dudes at sites like AnabolicMinds etc seems to be that penile sensitivity is about tweaking E2 and prolactin (downwards) in most cases and/or increasing test (rarely). Apparently Histamine is also crucial to the “sensitivity” equation and some guys have found success by using L-Histadine (a Histamine precursor). Mechanically, increasing bloodflow is important (PDE5 inhibitors and/or Arganine work well here). A word of caution, Arganine and Histamine run along the same pathway and have a relationship akin to Dopamine and Serotonin so you need to be cognizant of this if you plan on using both simultaneously. From a neurotransmitter standpoint I’ve read that increasing Dopamine (via supps, exercise and/or pharmaceuticals) may be important… as those who have used SSRIs and have symptoms similar to ours can attest to.

Finally, and this is simply speculation on my part, I think some sort of inflammation might be at play here. One of the most bizarre things about this problem (in my own experience) is the appearance of new veins and one in particular at the top of my penis which starts at the base and looks quite angry when erect. More and more I’m feeling like something mechanical is going on here. Or more likely some unfortunate combination of mechanical-prostate-inflammation/hormonal/neuro issues. For me at least this whole disaster began with one painful ejaculation, after which my nads were dead. I’m now up to something like 30% sensitivity. But the reason I feel like this might be rooted in something mechanical is that I often find that my ejaculations feel strained, like something at some place crucial to the sexual experience is literally “pinched” off. It’s a very difficult feeling to describe. I’m also experiencing a bit of persistent discomfort in my nether-regions, along with a pretty constant need to pee So I have to leave open the possibility that the root of my issue may be some kind of CPPS, Chronic Prostatitis etc where inflammation and tightness are at the core of the problem.

I don’t even want to consider nerve entrapment. That’s too depressing… I’ll work my way through that stuff once I wade through the potential remedies above.

Anyways… sorry for the rambling post. I hope it helps someone somehow lol. Bryce I’m with you dude, I’ve read alot on penile sensitivity and it’s kind of silly how little I understand the processes/physiology that accounts for penile sensation. Then again I’ve been more focused on looking for solutions as opposed to poring over physiological resources… might need to reassess how I’m approaching this. More Saturday nights dedicated to male penises? YES! :frowning:

Haha… booooooo.

#24

YES!

In my mind i always focus on my horror crash, the point at which i was bombarded with a number of very severe symptoms. However, weeks/ a month before this crash, sensitivity in my penis and slightly lowered libido and erection consistency was a problem looking back. I remember i masturbated once and it was rather painful. I looked down and saw a load of red streaks down the tip of my penis. It was the strangest thing. I will be damned if that doesn’t have something to do with this. After that happened i went off on a holiday that was fueled by outrageous amounts of alcohol, drugs and general unhealthiness. Probably not the best environment for recovery and healing?

I have had SOME clues. I have mentioned them before but i will mention them again.

- Temporary recovery by going back on finasteride. This must have been from the testosterone boost right? anyway, it wasn’t just my libido and penis that was up but my ejaculations were also very powerful and they shot out white, thick ejaculate. I slept properly and woke up with morning erections (sleep disturbances are very common with low test/ andropause) and my flaccid penis was the biggest i had seen it in my life. If this recovery was from higher testosterone levels then it shows that hormones can cause these symptoms that we suspect are mechanical. My morning erections were not as sensitive so maybe something mechanical was to blame for that.

  • Temporary recovery on holiday in a hot climate, getting LOTS of sun and also applying very, very hot water all over my perineum and groin area for 30 minutes daily. This is a tough one because i don’t know if these hot showers applied to my perineum were doing anything. I am sure they were because i noticed that from the first one my ejaculate became thicker and healthier looking, as i kept doing them the ejaculate improved until it was 100% normal and i was feeling like a sexual god all round. Even though at this point i may be forgetting what pre finasteride was like. This must have been as good, if not better, we are looking at ejaculations upwards of 10 times a day here. Each one of them absolutely phenomenal.

I don’t suppose anyone fancies trying the hot showers to the groin/ perineum? very hot salt baths would be a good alternative. Twice daily. It’s considerably cheaper and easier than flying over to Greece and getting fingered by an old man every day.

I really want to take something from these periods of normality that i have experienced. Any clues are good!

#25

i read one but is in italian
in english i found this
pudendalhope.info/node/9

i’m just looking inside, the majority of symptoms looks different, but
are also present some of ours

Possible symptoms include burning, numbness, twisting or pinching, abnormal temperature sensations, hot poker sensation, constipation, pain and straining with bowel movements, straining or burning when urinating, painful intercourse, and sexual dysfunction – persistent genital arousal disorder (genital arousal without desire) or the opposite problem - loss of sensation.

blasè seems have a good knowledge about this approach
i’m looking forward in his next replies
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=5788

#26

Thanks for this response bluecloud! I literally laughed out loud at the bolded haha :smiley:

So you recovered temporarily after using propecia again? That’s fascinating. How long did this last? It’s certainly true that hormonal issues could be at the root of problems that appear mechanical to us. Among other things. This guy on Dr. Crisler’s board is convinced that amping up our metabolic rate would kickstart
our system. There are so many angles to this problem. Your observations on heat applied to the perineum is also interesting… I don’t know what to make of it but if it brings relief then it’s something worth trying!

My goal is to work through some of these angles in a systematic way starting with the things I have most control over.

Anyways… take care dude.

#27

LMAO

#28

In answer, The prostate.

cleanprostate.com/nervesphoto.htm

People who have BPH have erectile dysfunction however much their testosterone is.

Prostatectomy results in loss of penile sensitivity and erectile dysfunction.

#29

My prostate feels swollen. It feels as if that whole area is sort of clogged/ blocked up.

#30

It is. If you want a temporary complete recovery, try ciprofloxacin and Prednisone for few days. Although not advised to take both drugs together because of higher risk of joint pain and tendon rupture. If you try these drugs together you have to proceed with extreme caution and avoid any exercise or injury. Prostatitis is hard to treat, and once incurred, it will probably persist for life. And this is why we never recover.

A radical approach must be sought to end this suffering.

#31

I don’t think it’s prostatitis, exactly. Were you not following the prostatitis thread? a load of guys tried cipro and other crazy strong antibiotics with no improvement.

Extra cortisol via dexamethasone and hydrocortisone has done nothing for me. I have induced a temporary full recovery using finasteride again.

Have you used Cipro?

#32

I’m one of the few who was helped by cipro. Fear of (further) yeast overgrowth and dwindling returns from antibiotics have kept me from my cipro. But as bluecloud suggests, many tried this med and many disliked its side-effects.

#33

This is exactly why I think this is related to sexual exhaustion when you say you think this happened after a bad ejaculation issue.

and hey bluecloud, I was thinking about your case when you traveled. I think it was the vitamin D from the sun that helped you. I read that you can get 20,000 IU’s of vitamin D processed by sun bathing in the carribean for 30 minutes. I know you didn’t go there, but I know you mentioned you got a lot of sun. I also had a lot of relief when I added Vit D3 (10k IU/drops per day), which is why I think that is the case.

#34

can you guys describe how your penis is in the flaccid state if you have numbness issues with your penis? for example, does it feel hard as if blood is trapped in there, “hard flaccid” or is it more normal looking?

do you guys with numbness have prominent veins being exposed like the dorsal vein or spider veins on the sides? can you tell me the color of the veins, like blue, dark blue, light blue, red, purple, etc? do the veins change color when you have an erection as opposed to in flaccid? also, if you have veins, the vein strength? what i mean by vein strength is, for example, the dorsal vein is usually popping above the skin and you can actually feel it to touch, where other veins are just simply visible, but don’t come above the skin. also, do you have pain with your veins?