Discussion - Presenting Doctors with Information

I’m sure this has been discussed many times, what I want to try and understand is the trend with side effects, I mean sure PFS.

Though what is the cause of this genetics, prior issues, 5ar mutation,horomones. etc?

Who had these issues prior to fin though not has bad.

Any of these contribute?

Drug/Steroid use?
Anxiety/Depression?
Low Libido/ED(Anxiety)?

Finally got my doctors on my side Two reputable dermatologists and a GP.

Only thing I had prior to this is low anxiety due to stress of work(sometimes caused low sex drive) though this is very common. Normally always active with high libido.

Do some reading around here and you’ll see nobody here knows the cause for certain. There are just a bunch of theories.

Myself, I haven’t been to a doctor for the PFS side effects in over a year, theres simply no point unless I wanna just check my bloodwork to see if there’s any changes. Some of the “PFS” docs here in the USA attempt to treat some of the side effects with some success… Many times with no success thou.

Just tell them your symptoms and they’ll get you fixed. You can mention finasteride use, but don’t be obsessed about it.
nocebo and sexual dysf.pdf (78.9 KB)

What are you trying to say here? That finastride side effects are all in our heads? Because that’s what that article you posted seems to imply.

He’s been trolling a lot lately.

That’s what the study is saying, not me. And the doctors may have come across it, so be careful, if you don’t want to be sent to a psychologists or psychiatrist straight like me. My medical history probably has notes from many doctors that say I’m a lunatic.

That’s one study, you can always show them the dozen or so out there that show the extact opposite. Not to mention the physical changes like shrunken testicles that are undisputable as far as I’m concerned.

Did you recover broken Pecker? I’ve got a booking with a urologist and endocrinologist so fingers crossed that goes well

You think I’d still be posting here if I recovered? I’ve spent/wasted $12,000 on trying to fix this and the things that helped me the most were not from doctors and for the most part were very cheap. But I am still far from fully recovered.

Are there any studies on fin shrinking testicles?!

Not that I’ve seen.

Well I’ll keep you guys posted. In the
Mean time no drugs, alcohol, test boosters for me and eating healthy. Still confused how two tablets can cause your penis to morph in half and testicles to feel like shrivlled up ice blocks. DHT we need it. P.s as this drug effects GABA, which is responsible for sex drive libido? Can this effect penile function or can prior drug use such as Ghb damage this function?

Still what confuses me the most is that there are similarites though alot of us have had different reactions. Some decrease in test, some increase in test and some even high estrogen…what the f**k is this doing, hormone imbalance surely.

My side effects.

Numbness of genitalia and shrinkage of scrotom.
Can get an errection though takes lot of stimulation and it’s only about 40% of what it used to be and doesn’t last long.
Dry facial Skin, red marks.
Mood swings like a female. Though most the time got mental sides under control.
Testosterone progressively dropping (2.5 week period, Could come back up)
Watery semen.

I mean i’ve seen plenty of theories like infection etc…really? is that a joke. I’ve had food poisoning and can still get it up.
I think what it comes down to is Androgen Deprivation, if there is not enough testosterone to power your body (i.e. erectile function, cognitive function) this is why there is so many reports of people getting weak bone density, erectile function problems, blurred vision etc. I mean i know this has been discussed, i should be open minded to theories. The fact is that some of us have hight DHT some don’t, could this be a reason for early onset of side effects like myself?

I’m showing in the range but my testosterone is progressively decreasing…hmmm. Why is my test decreasing if the 5ar enzyme was blocked? testosterone turns into DHT? or does DHT convert back to testoterone. Who know’s?

End of rant.

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Bump. -_- stupid rant.

Problem is there isn’t much consistency with this disease. Many of the ideas you mentioned have alrdy been explored by others but so far we haven’t been able to find the answer yet. We need to look deeper on the cellular, RNA, dna, enzyme level before we can figure out what happened. That’s what’s going on right now in Italy.

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Reduced ejeculate amount, orgasm - Shrinkage of the prostate.

What causes the penis to shrink? lack of androgens.

Propecia.

Shrinks prostate due to androgen deprivation of DHT.

Yeah but most people have normal dht on here… So following that line of thought doesn’t lead to a root cause.

Your prostate doesn’t shrink of two days of usage.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8636309
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10096387