Diagnosed venous leak (doppler test). Doctors can’t explain how it’s possible

Symptoms Sexual
#6

My inflow is good but there is also some outflow so the blood doesn’t stay ”trapped” and that’s why erection fades in seconds. Doctors doesn’t know why this happens.

Wikipedia:
Common complaints include a chronic soft erection insufficient for sexual intercourse, position-dependent erectile rigidity, difficulty achieving erections, difficulty maintaining erections without constant manual stimulation, loss of penile length and girth, and a soft glans of the penis during erection that is not fully engorged.

In addition, other possible causes include psychological stress, testosterone deficiency, neurotic deficit, a drug’s adverse influence, iatrogenic, and chronic systemic diseases such as diabetes and low urinary tract symptoms.

#7

Because of the substance he took and his symptoms. As you can see he can recover with short amounts of time. This isn’t common here. But yeah, no one could be sure about this. Im just guessed from my memory data.

#8

What do you mean? I haven’t recovered. I have diagnosed venous leak and there is no cure for that at the moment

#9

I mean these, it’s not sound like a typical “crash”. Hope you get better again with time.

#10

I think it might be best for you to not decide who is and isn’t a typical case.

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#11

Well there is nothing ”typical” in PFS, PSSD or what ever this shit situation is called.

I want to clarify few things:

  • ”Nocturnal erections came back”, they are like 70-80% from normal erection (and only when I lay in a bed) and I’m lucky if there is 1 nocturnal erection in a week. Last week had none.
  • I can’t have erection with Viagra, Cialis, Vitaros or Caverject. Nothing. So I would not call that I have recovered in any standards
#12

If these meds do not work…then…is it because the root cause is not small blood flow. Could it be due to the pudental nerve damage? Just guessing

#13

Hmmm… but I don’t have any pudendal nerve damage symptoms…

I have ok inflow (50/100), but before meds it was excellent (98/100). BUT now I also have outflow which I obviously did not have before meds. I just don’t get (and doctors do not also) how this is possible to have venous leak developed this fast

#14

I have no idea what the physical mechanism is, but it wouldn’t surprise me if if you woke up in a month with everything working as it did before all this happened.

This condition is crazy and many people have experienced temporary recoveries. I’m not saying that a recovery is automatically temporary, but I am saying that I think the majority of symptoms experienced here are temporary.

#15

Sure it could be possible BUT with diagnosed venous leak… not so sure about that…

My brother took SSRI’s 8 months and all that time his dick was totally limp. After he quit them it took 8 months to recover, but he recovered completely and without any supplements what so ever. So yes, everything is possible but diagnosed venous leak…

#16

I’m just saying, crazier things have happened.

#17

What about to use some kind of device around the penis to avoid the blood to get out of it?

#18

Have tried cockring but did not help. Maybe I should try a ring that goes over the sacks also…

#19

Tried Tribestan cycle? Maybe you should give it a try. Read the major thread about it. Im trying it myself at high doses of Balkan Tribulus, nothing seems good so far, in fact i believed it would work. But forget me, many people report positive benefits from it. Give it a try please and post your results. (All risk belongs to you)

#20

Tribulus is a weak testosterone booster. I have tried different tribulus before

#21

Had a doppler yesterday. No venous leak. Had like 80% erection with Caverject and first time since May I had erection also when standing (couple of minutes). I´m really confused. Doctor said this is something like PSSD or PFS.

#22

Interesting. Seems that things aren’t broken at least.

Ever optimistic - your situation seems to have improved a little. It’s possible it’ll continue to do so.

#23

BTW I got my lab tests also. My testosterone and thyroxine has drastically decreased.

S -hsTesVL 183* pmol/l (230-575) -> Before meds 406
S -hsTesto 9.8* nmol/l (10-38) -> Before meds 24
T4-V 11 pmol/l (9-19) -> Before meds 14

#24

zensan, exact sams thing happened to me, its 2.5 years since my crash

first year i went to various urologists and had 3 doppler tests done, 1 said i had a venous leak, 1 said I was fine, the other said he didnt know. A venous leak is not a leak per se, its a malfunction of the smooth muscle tissue in the penis, meaning they dont relax suffiently to trap blood in the penis and you lose your erection (especially when standing up)

Smooth muscle tissue relaxation is caused by your body releasing nitrous oxide, which is controlled by the neurosteroids that connect your brain and your dick, which are in turn regulated by your sex hormones ( DHT, which fin blocks)

From my reading of everything, the comminly held theory is that fin causes some kind of androgen insensitivity, ie its not about the level of testosterone or dht, more about how your body uses it

Therefore I have been focusing on increasing my androgen receptors, by the following

-Resistsnce training

  • L carnitane
  • L dopa
  • Good diet and taking care of my stomach

I also take l arginine which increases nitric oxide and I find great, its quite similar to cialis, which I dont want to take every day ( however useful when you need to “perform”)

Overall I can get morning erections most days without cialis with above protocol and seem to be on a painfully slow upward gradient in my recovery, although I find that my symtoms seem to come in cycles and i still have very bad days

Im no expert on all of this but I have had some relief so maybe it might help you

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#25

Thank you. I´m also pretty sure now it´s an androgen problem