Desperate hormone-sexual disfunction

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#1

Hello everyone! I’m a italian boy and i’m 23 years old.
I’m sorry because my english is not very good. I’m very sad because i have very bad sexual disfunction so i hope to find some advice in this forum.
When i was 18 (after a depression period) my hairs started to follow down so i came to my doctor and i started use Minoxidil(Regaine5%) and sometimes saw palmetto. Untill January2008 there was no big sexual problem.
22January2008 bloodtest is:
TSH: 2.47microU/ml [0.270 - 4.500]
FSH: 8.9U/L [1.5 - 12.5]
LH: 8.0U/L [1.4 - 8.0]
Testosterone: 4.82ng/ml [2.50 - 10.00]
HCG: <2

Summer 2008 i take for two month Propecia. First time i use it i noticed immediatly low libido, difficul with quality and durations of erection and liquid semes. The side effect more clear was (till now) abnormal sweating

10July2008 bloodtest is:
TSH: 3.32mU/L [0.270 - 4.200]
LH: 11.4UI/L [1.7 - 8.6]
Testosterone 4.7 [2.50 - 10.00]

I quit with Propecia because i realized there was something wrong.
in winter 2008 i found a girl and i realized that i was no able to have an sufficient erection so my doctor told me to take Levitra 10mg (and sopmetimes 2omg) to help whwn i need erections. Next month i notice a change in my tissute of penis. it is wrinkled, little curved toward the top, always cold, sometimes painfull erection.

20January2009 bloodtest i s
FSH 10.7UI/L [1.5 - 12.5]
LH : 14.2 UI/L [1.7 - 8.6]
PRL: 18.7 ug/L [3.0 - 15.0]
Testosterone: 4.54 [2.50 - 10.00]
Testosterone free: 7.7pg/ml [8.0 - 43.0]

Since this summer till now i notice a abnormal sweating.
I’m very sad. Please if someone could help me i will be very gratetful to him.
Thank everyone.

#2

Yes, there is hope. You need to get a 24hr Reine Urine panel done, and send it to Dr. Crisler. He wants to see your urine :wink:
I will explain later tho… Hang in there. There is hope. You can be ok!
Be in touch/contact with me.

#3

Omg you are recruiting potential chrisler patients amongst newly joined?

Thats just wrong. Im all for letting a doctor study ppl in here as a group and c similarites etc, its all good. But please…

First of Dev, What did your doctor say about your low Free Testosterone?
This low free T could most definetly be a cause for some of your health/sexual issues.

You might want to read up what tests to take.
Im bit in a hurry, someone else will chip in soon.

Many of us have been in your situation at first when quitting propecia.

Have to go.

#4

Thank you very much Boston and troubledfinuser2…who is this doctor? how can contact him?..my doctor told me to take testosterone Striant(Mipharm)30mg…but i’m afraid because i’m not sure if it good to me and it increase my hairloss, andwhen i quit testosterone what will happen? i don’t like depend from it.
Thank you all.

#5

dec if u contact me,i’m italian too and can help u to search a good doc knowing about fina’s sides .

#6

True, relying on hormonal replacement therapy must be controlled and cycled, as the risk of reducing your body’s natural capacity to make such hormones exists. It needs to be done correctly.

#7

The more blood tests you can get from the following list the better off you will be.

propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92

That is obviously a long list, and most on this forum have not done all of them, but try and get a more extensive panel done rather than repeat the same “Testosterone etc.” exams without broadening your investigation a little. Others may chime in with their reccommendations, but personally I would say you should have Estradiol checked, especially since you describe sweating as one of your symptoms. I’ve frequently read that night sweats and hot flashes are commonly related to elevated estrogen in men, and Estradiol is the most menacing of Estrogen in men since it interferes at many levels with Testosterone.

Also get thyroid and adrenals looked at, so T3 & T4 (thyroid hormones), plus Cortisol and/or Cortisone, and DHEA (adrenals). There seems to be a connection among many of us former fin users/sufferers to adrenal issues. It’s not the answer for everyone, but it’s somewhere to look. At one point it becomes more about ruling out one possibility after another, rather than necessarily expecting a resolution with one or two tests. Best of luck and keep posting any results.

#8

Yeah… why don’t you get all the “required”(?) blood tests recommended on this site, most likely pay a few hundred dollars for them, like everybody else does… and then sit there “grasping at straws” and do nothing with them but debate and philosophize!

OR, you can sign up with a doctor who HAS experience treating over 50+ Propecia users already, with success, get the blood tests he uses, and maybe get treated successfully, and soon.
His number is 517-485-4424.

#9

Boston, ever heard the saying “if you don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything at all”?

It certainly applies in your case. Everyone here has their own comfort level, caution level and personal timeline which they adhere to when it comes to getting “treatment” or trying further drugs.

Nobody can force someone to do something, especially online, no matter how much ranting and raving they may do.

Finally, I highly doubt people are interested in your condescending attitude around here, not the least of which is me providing you this very website, free of charge, to even post on in the first place.

Please change your tone and the way you communicate with others. You can just as easily post the info requested without belittling and acting like a dick, or feeling the need to rant on with page-long, convoluted, verbal diarrhea-like manifestos.

No offense, and thanks.

#10

Has he treated 50 propecia sufferers?
How many came out feeling normal again?

I think its good, hell go for it allrdy!

But i still dont think you should try to influense first time posters to do what you came up with yesterday because you want to try it out finally.

I cant recall what you have done thats so radical and go getty, refresh my memory if im wrong. If im not, you can hardly blame ppl for beeing scared of putting more stuff in their body, as you were yourself up untill this point atleast.

Not saying to be an arse just it dont look good to me when you ask first time posters to pm you when you have an agenda (even if good) of your own.

#11

We have all tried the wait and see strategy. It is not working.
I sure wish someone said, “Go see Dr. Crisler. Do this, this, then this. It costs x + y, and will cost you z in total… ANd don’t wait because its better to treat this right after it happens, your chances are better, and you don’t want to come down with prostate trouble either. Also you will most likely want to see him in 2 years when you are still in this situation anyway.”

Tell me this, Do you compare our situation to those of steroid users?
Well do you think any steroid user would wait two years to take their PCT injection after a cycle!?

Two years ago when I joined this site we did not know what we know now. Our recommended advice should change some then. We still DO NOT know how to cure this.
Additionally, most new guys spend most of their first year or so dealing with this struggling and struggling to try to find some local doctor to “try to help”, and when they do finally find one, never do they really get anywhere with them. If you know of anyone different let me know…
Whats worth it… Spend a year in despair, on your own, with no advice, talking to doctor after doctor, none of which believe you, depressed and alone, OR go to a doctor, for a very reasonable fee I should ad, who has treated many of us, some with success, and one who is getting better day by day.
We know a lot more now than we did two years ago, so our advice should change.
Nobody is really getting it done. It’s money well spent.
I will admit however that it is daunting to make this plunge, and travel so far to see this doctor, and if I didn’t happen to be on Adderall such as I am right now I would also still probably be procrastinating, and depressed, and in denial.
I’m just sick of it dude! I’m sick of waiting to MAYBE get better someday. So I did it! I JUST DID IT! I went and saw him. A day I can now easily forget about! BUT NOW!!! I am under the supervision and treatment of a competent physician! and can be so now back even in the comfort of my own home for whenever I need someone. I believe in him. One who CAN cure me.
I don’t know how much your time is worth…

#12

For you im glad. Sounds like you have a plan and im crossing my fingers for the best.

For me i allrdy did trt and im actually thinking of doing it again. Í did it as soon as i found out my T was low. I dident wait 2 years. As for pct its not for me, my estrogen is low and i feel like absolute crap even when i take a weak AI once.

When i got here wich i belive was ahead of you. We know pretty much the same we know today, we might not have had as many studies quoted on this forum but we knew pretty much the same. Atleast i did…

All i was trying to suggest was if i was coming to a new forum for help and a guy says pm me, you need to fly from italy to c this doc right away i in the states, i might get even more in dispair and do nothing cause it just seem daunting and out of the question. That and the fact that you have an agenda to c if theres similarities to your case, it just looked bad to me, no offense.

Anyways good luck and keep us posted how u feel and what you do.

#13

So wait. I’m not even sure anymore. Boston, you DO think we should go and see Dr Crisler, or you DON’T? Please clarify.

#14

Never woulda noticed :unamused:

Answer this: did you lack motivation, mental clarity, etc? before using an amphetamine?

Oh and yeah, it is nice to know you’re in good hands when you need them the most. I don’t have the funds to see Crisler, so I hope he has success with your long-term side effects, even though you’re coming off like a condescending asshole. Keep us posted.

#15

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