Describe your crash

General Discussion
#1

I have seen the odd user mentioning similarities in the ‘crash’ event in members stories etc but i think it will be useful it we can come together and describe the ‘crash’ event in one thread. From all the internet trawling and research i have done, it is one thing that is unique to PFS and something which still troubles me greatly. There were troubles for me in the month/ weeks leading up to when i crashed but for the sake of keeping things brief and concise, i will describe the crash only.

I was out, smoking shisha (3rd time ever) and stuffing my face with junk foods at a bar. I got a cab back to my hotel and on the way there i had to stop the driver and i was randomly sick. I thought ‘that’s a bit weird’ because otherwise i did not feel particularly ill apart from anxiety/ depression that i was suffering and some fatigue. Later that night i was feeling quite shitty about a lot of things so i was up late, bored and just put on some porn - as a teenager does, i probably had 3 ejaculations back to back. I noticed my erections were not as strong and things felt ‘off’. Next minute, all my muscles were aching, i felt incredibly fatigued and anxious and had to keep running to the toilet. I could barely excrete or urinate despite the feeling of urgency. My stool turned black/ green and completely changed to small droplets. I was constantly pissing, my penis felt numb and i was dribbling all over the place. I also noticed eczema instantly flare up bright red (still have this today). I eventually jumped into bed and noticed that i felt horrible as i tried to sleep, i was twitching a lot and every time i almost fell asleep a part of my body would jump and my heart would go crazy. Eventually i would fall asleep for an hour and wake up, it was this type of thing repeating over and over. When i woke up i noticed that my penis was particularly numb and i had no morning erection. I had never not woken up with a morning erection before that, i swear to god. I have only had 3 of those real morning erections where you can barely piss because it’s so hard since i quit the drug :frowning:

Other symptoms to note that i will just bullet point:

. Lots of itching around the groin and penis area
. Feeling like my groin area was ‘blocked up’ and at the same time quite fragile, especially my legs

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There was of course all the other run of the mill PFS stuff, which i still suffer. I have focused on the symptoms that were unique to my crash in this description. Basically; the constant itching, the urination/ excreting troubles, muscle twitches, jolting in my sleep are the only things that went away with time for me.

#2

Reading through that really makes me suspect prostatitis.

#3

The “crash” is typically the onset of hypogonadal symptoms (massive drop in endogenous Testosterone, LH and FSH levels) within weeks of stopping the drug, accompanied by penile atrophy, complete loss of libido, impotence etc, as outlined here:

propeciahelp.com/symptoms

#4

Yeah i saw all of that the day after i crashed Mew. It is a great list because the very second i read through it, i knew this forum was the right place for me and i could count out stress or any other health conditions.

I set up this thread to look further into things though because i know many of us have strange similarities!

#5

My crash matches Mew’s list to a T.

#6

Yeah mine too.

#7

Interesting to note another person who crashed after multiple times masturbating in close proximity. Might be a clue there.

#8

I’d say close to Mew’s list for me - I would not say I was completely out of the woods after 2 weeks but had definite improvements including strong morning wood was also taking Tongkat Ali at the time -perhaps went too far with testoterone levels and was yanking the chain to keep things moving below waist.

The one item that was different for me is my T did not fall of the map with the crash - I have stayed around 700 except have high Estrogren and low free T percentage. Biggest change post-crash was severe testicle pains and shrinkage and also penis shrinkage. STD

#9

I had been drinking for about a week prior as I was on spring break. I also had a pretty bad diet. The night I got home, I had just got out of the shower and out of nowhere I felt like a truck hit me. I was completely drained. Went straight to sleep and woke up the next day really sick along and also with a rash on my face. I remember waking up and going to the bathroom…it was like my penis did not exist. I could not lift/flex it, I couldn’t push urine out. My penis felt like a dead piece of rubber just hanging there.

My doctor assumed STD since I was on spring break…but I knew it wasn’t and test results confirmed this.

#10

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#11

Any changes in the black/green stool, bluecloud? Do you get them consistently, or do they change ever, or is it random or anything?

#12

I felt progressively worse the first two weeks off the drug leading up to 3-4 days where I didn’t sleep/eat. Then I was feeling better oddly one day and I went to the gym. When I was leaving I felt incredible, I felt great like I hadnt felt that good in years energetic, focused, full of vigor, I was sweating a ton at the gym, I started to breakout on my back later that night. I felt good for about a day when I “relapsed” and went back to feeling horrible with full sexual sides, occuring over the course of 48 hours, severe insane anxiety, horrible depression and insomnia.

Happened abit backwards for me felt crappy, felt good, then felt crappy again. Also of note is I had my testosterone checked 3 weeks off and it was 804 (250-1100) and it has since actually gotten slightly higher. Last I checked it came in at 844. Yet my side effects persist. It appears to me the crash has less to do with testosterone and more to do with DHT, its metabolites and thyroid/adrenal hormones.

#13

My crash matches bp’s. I crashed immediately coming off drug. Had a slight relief of symptoms ten days later then crashed again a 5 days later.

#14

I CRASHED IN 2007 WHILE STILL ON THE DRUG,ONE DAY I WAS FINE THE NEXT DAY VERY FATIGUED AND FELT DEAD INSIDE,ZERO LIBIDO,THEN STUPIDLY CARRIED ON TAKING IT AND GOT THROUGH HALF ANOTHER BOX BEFORE FEELING EVEN WORSE AND REALISING THERE WAS SOMETHING VERY WRONG,FOR AROUND A YEAR AFTER STOPPING THE DRUG I WAS ILL ALMOST CONSTANTLY,FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS,VIRUSES ETC,3 WEEKS BAD THEN ONE WEEK OK THEN 3 WEEKS BAD AGAIN,I JUST COULDNT SHAKE IT,ITS LIKE MY IMMUNE SYSTEM WENT A.W.O.L…

#15

My crash:

Friday night - I was about to go out to a concert, but became incredibly tired. My lower abdomen was hurting (the area between my penis and bellybutton) to the point were I had to lie down. I went to bed and the next morning, I woke up with a lifeless, rubbery dick without sensitivity.

The day after I went to the movie theater and got horrible anxiety attacks. That was the start of it.

#16

I’m not sure what my crash is/was? I stopped fin Oct 2011 and about 6 weeks later got a dull aching pain in my left testicle. That lasted a few weeks which lead to terrible constipation. Throughout the rest of 2011 into March of 2012 I was terribly depressed and anxious, spaced out etc. the constipation has subsided, along w the depression. I still have testicular pain and terrible pain on my left side, back pain, a small red patch on my forearm, gyno and muscular aches twitches. I am able for the most part to get back to my normail life but am terrified I will crash again or for the first time …any thoughts?
Eric