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#1

Hi. As I am new to this community I would like to introduce myself.

I am a 28 years old male from hungary. I used finasteride 2,5 years and then switched to dutasteride for a couple of months. I finaly quit these drugs due to the negative side effects they were providing (became alergic to both of them, reduced libido and stamina, skin rash…etc) and started natural treatment based on soy isoflavon genistein.

I have to admit that nothing really bed happened when I stopped finasteride and then dutasteride. Everything was fine and I returned back to normality. I just could not understand why after 2 years on fin, which were great and I had zero problems with it in terms of sides, finaly almost from one week to another I developed allergy to this drug. I immidietely contacted Merck and asked how is it possible to become allergic to the drug more then two years of usage, without having any problems before. I asked what might be the problem with drug tolerance and how could it change within such a short period of time. I did not get the answer anyway.

I decided to quit finasteride and switched to dutasteride. That was not a big surprise to me that I reacted to the drug almost the same. I developed alergy to it within next 2 months including all other sides so I decided to quit. Things within next 3 months (just like within the instruction) returned to normality and I regained full stamina, massive libido and “of course” hair loss.

This is the moment when the most interesting and the most tragic events occur. Everything was fine I got rid of drugs and I am sure I was clean in terms of them. There was a massive inflamation on my scalp, massive hairloss too. I decided once again to do something about that but this time to make it naturaly. What i did was a natural topical solution based on soy isoflavon genistein. I prepared a topical with genistein.

I started using this and surprisingly I noticed that it works well but I also noticed that after each direct supply on my head I feel disconected to the world. I continued massaging my scalp with it anyway cause I thought it is safe to do so and this disconnected feeling and loss of libido associated with that must not be disturbing.

This is the moment when something crazy happened. Within third week of my natural regimen after the supply of my topical to my head something went terribly wrong… I did not know what happened but I felt increadible fatigue right after this supply.
I gained so much fat on my face only within a few days after this genistein topical supply. This was amazing, cause I felt as if I ruined my life or something…

This was the begining of the whole nightmare, the breakthrough point…
I became extremely fatigued, started having heart palpitations, panic attacks, problems with speech and increasing sleep problems… I cannot even explain you all the problems I have cause now (after 2 years from this natural treatment) almost everything is affected.

I visited all the doctors. I got all possible tests and everything is fine. Doctors told me i must be crazy. There was only one who tried to figure out what is the problem and suspected candida, but I did not believed that cause I never really had and digestive or stomach issues or anything. I did candida tests anyway and there was nothing at all in the sample.

Anyway I am really terified about all of this, but the amazing thing is that I am 100% sure this what happened was not caused by finasteride or dutasteride. I returned back to my senses 100%. The whole problems began and I got fatigued after this genistein topical that I used.

I wonder what happened and I do not understand it. I was a healthy guy full of energy and then after usage of this silly mixture 2 years ago I ruined my life.

Honestly, because non of the doctors I met can really figure out what is going on. They even smile when I tell about this soy based topical episod, that I am really angry. That’s why i decided to do all the possible test that are possible. I will scan everything cause there is no other thing to due as all the doctors think I am crazy.

There must be the cause… it is just impossible to feel this way without anything inside me that is screwing things around. I feel worse from one week to another:(

#2

I visited one of the best endocrynologists in Budapest. The guy said that there are many diferent drugs that also have an influance on 5 alpha reductase plus there are many substanes found in nature that provde such an ability (like isoflavons). More, he said that 5 alpha reductase enzym has not to much to due with sexual functions, some moderate for libido, but the crucial thing for libido is testosteron by itself. He said that the problem might be neurological and cased by some other factor. That what he said yesterday.

#3

I want to list my major symptoms:

Lack of the correct blood flow.

My blood does not circulate the way it was before. I can sens that it cannot fullfeel all the necessery areas. I have a much less sensitivity due to it and feel somewhat numb. It is as if there was not enough oil to run the engine. Same goes with the engine when there is not enough oil inside you get much less HP output. Something pretty identical is going on with me.

My brain, especially cerebellum, central nervous system, body parts are not fullfeeled with the proper amount of blood flow. Good example how it manifests itself is the numbness of my bodyparts while keeping one position.

Cardiac problems (also associated with the blood flow)

My heart is having difficulties in beating. I usualy have an increased heart rate. Sometimes I have palpitations, especialy at night.
I think this is also due to the lack of the right blood flow. Heart has to increase its rate to compensate to pomp sufficient amounts of the blood.

Dick (same issue)

Dick, prostate is not powered as it should. There is not enough “oil” too. All these issues are manifesting the same problem the only difference is how I sense them, giving some different feelings from different body parts, but while looking at myself as the one integrated mechanism, the whole dick, brain, cerebellum, prostate, body parts is deffinetely the same thing that stands behind all these conditions.

So if heart, brain, central nervous system…etc is finding difficulties in functioning then what is causing these difficulties.

#4

Hi.

My endo took his time and got also familiar with the site of CFIDS association. He also had a consultation with his friend who is a doctor naturopath and asked what he sees as a potential cause.

The guy confirmed that the whole problem might be bacterial becase according to his knowledge there is a number ofl bacteria that might be destroying many functions. It is funny because I have seen here some theory of a one of the members here targeting chlamydia pneumoniae. This is funny because that doctor sugested some different tests with chlamydia pneumoniae on the top of that list.

I am also invited for the appointment to see him and discuss the potential causes and treatment. My Endo told me that the guy is a bit freaky but seeing him with this condition might be priceless. I will report what he will tell me then.

#5

I’ve had my suspicions for awhile now, but thanks for confirming that you are in fact the user “majkellos” (aka “gottaproblem”), who was banned twice already for posting false claims, says he knows the solution to everyone’s “problem” and posts vague, waffling & useless theories pulled out of thin air – typically spearheaded by “candida” and “chlamydia pneumoniae” as the cause.

Last time your issues were from Dutasteride, this time they are from genistein or some topical – sorry, but that’s not the purpose of this forum. You even admit under your latest username that neither Finasteride nor Dutasteride caused you any problems after quitting (unlike your Majkellos account, where Dutasteride left you messed up), so you can’t even keep your story straight.

I have my reasons for banning people (beyond which I list publicly, ie searching through logs of data to confirm my thoughts), and am 99% confident in my decision that you are in fact who I believe you to be. For those who are curious, here is the previous thread where this user got banned the 2nd time:
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewt … ttaproblem

To the rest of the readers of this site – ignore anything this user has posted as he is delusional, creates fictional accounts, details and stories for who knows what purpose, and only serves to clutter up the forum with useless information and draw attention away from the REAL issues at hand.

#6

Funnily enough, as soon as he is banned, this user continues to attribute everything to “chalmydia pneumoniae” on hairlosstalk.com and slanders myself and this site in the process:

hairlosstalk.com/interact/vi … 46&t=49950

All I have to say is, everyone’s entitled to their opinion. If it turns out we’re all infected with this pathogen, I’m sure treatment will resolve all of our isues and we’ll have him to thank. In the meantime, I’m not holding my breath.

PS: thanks for confirming you are in fact who I thought you were. My suspicions were correct.