Definitely Leaky Gut Syndrome! (candida and parisites)

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#1

Guys,

I thought like all you guys that propecia fucked our endocrine
system up and all of that. Don’t get me rong. It did, but not ‘directly’.
It is indirectly caused by leaky gut syndrome. How the leaky gut? Every
time you take a prescription drug it taxes your good bacteria and allows
things like candida to flourish. I was fine on propecia for 2 years for my immune system to get compromised before I came ill!

Others have been taking propecia for 10+ years and are fine? Why?

GOOD IMMUNE SYSTEMS.

The people who have had severe sided effects are experiencing those from chronic CANDIDA ALBICANS and PARASITE infection. Look them up and they will mirror anything that you are experiencing! The reason why testosterone and DHT take a long time to come back in those affected by propecia is dur to ADRENAL EXHAUSTION from the body’s constant battle to try and detoxify from leaky gut. The body has way more important things to do in keeping you alive than worrying about producing adequate juice (testosterone) to make your pecker percky!

THe sooner you guys address the leaky gut and candida the sooner you will get better!

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#2

Well im not gonna say this is all there is to it, but im actually on parazol as of today (coinsidense) with a zaper (freuqenzy thingy that kills bacteria) to kill bacteria and at end of cykle i will do a 2 day liverflush. Ill let u know if i feel any difference.

#3

So how do we get rid of it??
I do think that its some sort of infection, no doubt. But all my life I have been the healthiest person. Could eat or take just about anything. Had also been living very healthy, had a very healthy body before Propecia.

So what can we do to get rid of the Candida and Parasites then? What do you recommend?
I do feel an infection in my lower abdomen!

#4

so paul are you saying you really don’t think you needed ghb as long as you adressed the leaky gut problem to begin with>? I think there may be something to what your saying…I took many prescription drugs in the past 3 years and my tongue has holes and crevices which mimicks my stomach liningso I think you may be right about leaky gut although it is hard to say if it is 100% true at this point that it is the sole cause of SD although it is very possible a major contributor.

#5

I think gut issues could certainly play a part in this but how did you come to this conclusion and do you know anybody who has recovered by correcting their gut flora?

I just sent a fecal analysis last week and will get results back in a month. Will let you know.

Dont quote me on this but crevices in the toungue are indicative of a liver issue.

Keep in mind too that stress of any kind will knock you gut flora around bit time. Im saying that the stress from this whole experience may do it.

Ive bought this up before but didnt get much of a response from it. I had a colonic washout done or colonic irrigation, whatever you want to call it, and either the next day or two days after, my libido was out of control. I was more horny than I have ever been in my life. Thing is it only lasted for about 2 hours.

What a colonic does is takes out all or your crap that is sitting in your colon and relives your body of toxic load for a few days. It is very interesting that I responded this way. It tells me that the fin may still be sitting in my colon and not being excreted. The colon is also where most of your gut bacteria do their work too.

Also what is interesting is that I feel much worse in the morning before ive had a crap. Ive noticed that after i have a crap i feel a little better over all, not libido though that i notice. I do think there is somthing in this, i just dont know what.

If a few of us persue this route with gut flora tests, it might tell us somthing. You have to make sure the stool sample is a good one though because ive heared there are some very shotty ones out there.

Paulwaters, do you think these same kind of issues could also be caused by prostatitis that may or may not show up on a urine sample? I think the gut flora thing is right, but just throwing ideas around.

Also with the adrenal thing, ive been taking cortisone for about 2 months now and have not improved at all in the libido department. This is meant to treat adrenal problems. Sorry for the rambling post, i am just adding things to it as I remember them.

#6

Hey I think this guy might actually be right…

http://prostatitis.org/fungus.html

#7

I think we are on to something man. Big Softie, how tactful of you to post this link.

I have actually been feeling this is an infection for a while now, just don’t know what type.
I’ll tell you though, I have been following a strict MACROBIOTIC DIET now for about 5-6 weeks and am finally getting used to it. Its not that hard. Anyway, I just recently am starting to show remarkable improvements!
And ironically enough it wasn’t until today I decided to eat something very sweet, and then felt a little burning and shrinkage again. I had almost forgotten what it feels like.

Anyway, a macrobiotic diet is not hard, just look it up on Wikipedia.
Try it out some of you othe guys and see if get some good results.
Try also walking around a track for 2-3 hours at night before you go to bed a few nights. This is also when I started to show some remarkable improvements. I am having morning erections again, a few days in a row.
Also, the Naturopath I saw says walking is just about the best thing I can do, besides of course all the things he has prescribed me to try to fight this thing off so it does not come back.

I’ll admit, it sucks a little bit, because I used to love coffee, and stil miss it so much, as well as sweets, pasta, snacks, chesse, and shit. But I just eat a lot of brown rice. I’ll cook a big pot which will last me three days. I have lots of salads (no tomatoes, naturopath described it as pouring acid on a canker sore, so basicly nothing acidic.) Occassional chicken, fish, but multigrain muesli EVRY morning w/ soy milk. That gets a little boring, but its only breakfast, and then some sort of rice, or whole grain with broccoli, veg, or something like I mentioned before.
I basically do not fuck around anymore, and I am getting better.

#8

Im glad to hear u say u are feeling better. I really think u need to get some protein source to go with that. The ocasional chicken or fish wont cut it in the long run. Maybe u r allrdy taking some protein shakes? eggs? try to eat nuts as snacks maybe? yr body needs building blocks not just a full stomach.

#9

Yes, I do. Thank you! I work heavy labor everyday. I am in the tree service industry, I am an arborist, so I know what its like to need protein. I have studied nutrition. I am also about to do a 270 mile hike starting tomorrow, planning on finishing in 20 days, so those will be some long long days!! I eat so many nuts I feel like a chipmunk!
But I tell you, I can feel this infection starting to subside. Its about time! My ejaculate volume is increasing, and I can ‘spit’ loads again! Also wake up with increased wood the last three days consecutively.
I really honestly think I will be back to normal after this marathon of a walk. There’s no way this infection can hold up against the exercise and friction 15-20 miles per day will cause.

#10

I think this is a laughable concept without any logical evidenced positioon whatsoever.

I could equally contend that there is a giant talking tacco at the end of the unviverse called Captain banana.

There is no more truth/evidence in either notion.

#11

I guess you haven’t been following my posts.

I have been talking to lots of people about it and walking is very beneficial to the prostate. I am a member on the chronic prostatitis forum as well where many people have cured their prostates this way, as well as through the Stanford protocol and many variations of such.

I’m sorry you don’t believe me.

…Well you don’t have post finasteride prostate issues anyhow, so you wouldn’t do it anyway.
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And look, dudes can sit around all they want on the computer. Depressed at home, but I tell you. Its more or less doing nothing! Sitting on the computer for as long as most of us probably do. Its a waste of time. We do it because most of us are CHRONICALLY DEPRESSED. Get out and do it. At least try it for a month.
I think I spent an average of 4 hours per day on the computer. I sure don’t mind spending 2-3 getting better, while also breathing some fresh air, and also doing something healthy!

#12

That is categorically NOT evidence.

However I tell you what is.

A) The prostate issue experienced in many men could easily be caused by a relative in icrease in estrogens over androgen, whcih is typically seen in men post finasteride use. Estrogens increased via SHBG or estradiol or a relative increase due to them being less opposed by lowered androgen status.

Increased estrogen are a major cause of the very condition you speak of.

B) Walking and in fact many forms of exercise are known to low guess what?

Drum roll…

Yes you got it estrogens.

C) regarding the depression that many men speak of, what is a typical symptom of ?

Drum roll…

Yes you got it reduced free testosterone.

D) Why would walking help alleviate depression?

Because amongst other things the lowering of estrogens results in a relative increase in free testosterone, there are many other hormonal and physiological factors at work too and of course it prevents one thinking about their problems too much.

None of them relate to guts, leaky or otherwise.

You have taken something with no logical basis or evidence and in fact NO, not even a loose association….whatsoever and ran away with it.

I go back to my analogy as it has as much truth and evidence to it as you proposition.

I could equally contend that there is a giant talking tacco at the end of the unviverse called Captain banana.

If you want to bust your guts over this nonsense they I’ll leave you guys to it.

But if you have a problem with your prostate and high normal estradiol and or SHBG or a relatively low free testosterone level then just get the darn thing medicated and you will see the prostate problem disappear if you are on the right treatment…sigh.

#13

Let me know what you think of this link

scientistsolutions.com/t1143 … stine.html

#14

Its very very interesting, and I believe it. I just wish I knew more, or what to do. My sexual function can feel completely different depending on what I eat.
And surprisingly, for me, when I drink alcohol my erections and sex is great. Its really strange to me, and I wish I knew the answer.

#15

I think it’s gonna take a while since the large intestine colonize 800 different bacterial groups. So probiotics only present not much of that.

What also might help is Apple Cider Vinegar with honey… so 2 teaspoons AVC in a glass of water with one teaspoon of honey 2 times a day…
You will get pimples if you are acne prowne but just try…
makes me dream
makes me feel good for a few hours.

let me know what you think about that.

#16

“” Its very very interesting, and I believe it. I just wish I knew more, or what to do. My sexual function can feel completely different depending on what I eat.
And surprisingly, for me, when I drink alcohol my erections and sex is great. Its really strange to me, and I wish I knew the answer. “”

My thought is because of a neurological issue .

#17

joellie, thank you for reminding me. I did remember a chinese medicine cure of ingesting a quantity of vinegar daily. I will look it up and try.

#18

so boston, no relief after all this time? I gotta think you probably tried it all.

#19

Can this be related? From: propeciahelp.com/forum/viewt … ht=colitis

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#20

I don’t think I can really blame my intestinal bleeding on propecia because I started having blood mixed in with my bowel movements a year before I started losing my hair and taking steps to stop it.