Crazy hormones

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#1

fsh 4,4 1-14
lh 7,8 1,5-9,2
estradiol 13 7-45
testosterone 5,14 2,8-8
psa 0,45 0-4
tsh 2,62 0,27-4,2
dht 676 250-990
prolactin 15,2 4-15,2
vitamin d 23 20-35
free testosterone 20 9-43
androstenedione 2,5 0,5-4,8
shbg 19 9-54
3alphadiolG 9,2 3-22
i’ve done the short recommended list and psa that was required somewhere else. My impressions

  1. testosterone is noticeably lower than the other 2 times i checked it, the first time was very close to the superior limit (4 months and a half after quitting propecia, no other hormonal drugs in that period), the second time it was above the limit (immediately after taking hcg for 3 weeks once a week), now it is so low compared to the other 2 times.
  2. prolactin is extremely high, too high i think, do i have hyperprolactinaemia?
  3. vitamin d is quite low i think
  4. dht is about 230 pg higher than the first time i checked it, well it is good to my mind, but it is strange that testosterone got lower and dht increased, i checked it first time about 25 days after the 3 weeks i took hcg.
  5. after hcg lh was very close to the inferior limit, now it’s quite high and it seems strange to my mind that lh has increased so noticeably and testosterone has gone down.
#2

any clues?

#3

No clues, they are fine. Clearly your problems are rooted elsewhere.

#4

of course they are!! but as i wrote above prolactin too high and testosterone lower than before don’t satisfy me.

#5

It’s perfectly possible to have your testosterone lowered and have high DHT. (My own experience is a case in point). My doctor told me that this situation could be caused by testosterone being metabolized too fast, creating the metabolite DHT.

How’s your libido? High prolactin can be a sex-drive killer.

#6

i think that libido is not low, somedays it is high some days it’s just normal, some days is very low but i think this changeable situation is totally normal. Well maybe very low libido is not normal but the biggest problem is erectile dysfunction and the second one is fibrosis/shrinkage i think due to faint blood rush to penis.

#7

Since i quitted finasteride i’ve done 5 blood tests for hormones, the first in march, i checked testosterone, lh, fsh, prolactin and estradiol and they were very good values, testosterone very high. Then i checked lh, testosterone, and prolactin after 3 weeks of hcg in may and i had testosterone over the limit and lh very low, but still in range, after about 20 days i checked dht and estradiol with dht in range but a bit low. Then in november i did the short recommended list on propeciahelp and my concerns were on prolactin that was very high, at the upper limit and testosterone that was in range but lower than the other times, dht was higher than before. Now i checked just these hormones because i think they are the most important for sexual health that is my biggest (and maybe only) problem and they are crazy!!!
estradiol 16 8-43
lh 6,5 0,8-6,1
prolactin 10,1 4,04-15,2
testosterone 3,91 2,8-8
free testosterone 8,1 9-55
dht 990 250-990
i haven’t taken any hormones since august when i took hcg last and i can’t explain what is going on. How can lh be so high and testosterone so low? And how can i have such high dht with such low testosterone? The only hormone that has never given problems to me is estradiol that every time i’ve checked was quite low but in range, but what the fuck are the other 5 hormones doing???
Comparing tests with my symptoms, when i had the first tests with very high testosterone libido was good, like before finasteride, but erections were very bad, now i have libido problems whilst erection, when i achieve it, is better than before, not perfect but better than before. Any advices?

#8
#9

i had to quote my previous messages to put some brackets as someone told me they were not easily legible.

#10

“can i ask something about hcg? i took 2000 u.i. hcg 3 times in may one week apart, twice in july one week apart again and once in august, it was good for libido. before hcg testosterone was high, lh normal. i checked them this week and testsoterone is very low, free testosterone under the limit, lh over the upper limit and dht extremely high too, at the upper limit. Can that be due to my usage of hcg? It seems that testsicles are not able to product testsosterone anymore, if i take hcg again, at least theorically, will it work, will my testosterone rise, or with testicular problems even hcg can do nothing?”

Your free testosterone is at the lower limit?

If I was you I would not be taking HCG if your LH is high. There is no real point. I suggest you trial some testosterone and see what happens with that then do a blood test. That may give you a better idea.

I am not sure what the high DHT means. I have not seen it before.

#11

Well, let’s not panik here: thinksteroids.com/forum/mens-health-forum/hcg-permanantly-desensitize-ledyig-134302649.html

#12

i need to have my testosterone extremely high, it is not a physical need (well now it is physical too, but i had this necessity also when i had good testosterone), it’s more a psychological need, trt is dangerous for fertility so i don’t want to try it now, what other products can i take to raise my testosterone? hcg was great from that point of view, but i dread it won’t work anymore. It is curious to notice that i stopped hcg in august, but testosterone was higher in november (closer to august) than in february.

#13

Have you tested SHBG? High SHBG could explain low bioavailable testosterone. Danazol/Proviron for lowering SHBG could be a better option than supplementing with testosterone, if you want to go down the ‘messing with hormones’-route. Proceed with caution though.

#14

i checked shbg in november and it was good, not very high, i didn’t check it in february because i think it is not the problem. I can’t understand anything, it’s like there are 2 phases of my pfs, the first when i was completely impotent, libido was exactly as before finasteride, penis was shrunken and hard flaccid, testosterone very high, lh normal, dht a bit low but in range, i was fatter, it lasted from august 2010 to may 2011. the second phase that started in november 2011 till now (from may to november i think it was like a change period) when my erection is better than in phase 1, libido is very low, some days almost nonexistent, penis is more elastic and bigger than phase 1, both at rest and in erection, maybe i’m almost healed from that problem, testosterone is very low, dht and lh very high, i urinate much more frequently, often i suffer from premature ejaculation, i’m thinner i weigh about 6/7 kg less than phase 1. Phase 1 and phase 2 are like day and night and the only “heavy” drugs i took between them are cialis, hcg 2000 u.i. and some antibiotics, maybe this change is due to them or maybe it’s just a coincidence, who knows. However as a whole phase 2 is better than phase 1.

#15

These distinct periods you describe are very strange. I can divide up my PFS-time in similar ways. There’s significant change every 3-5 months, where some symptoms improve and others get worse. The net result is usually the same.

#16

my last blood tests about 10 months after last ones, i checked only sexual hormones because i almost have only sexual problems:
lh 9,2 (1,5-9,2)
estradiol 11 (7-45)
total testosterone 5,6 (2,8-8)
free testosterone 22 (8-55)
prolactin 17 (4-15,2)
dht 710 (250-990)
as last time extremely high lh and just normal testosterone that could mean my testicles don’t work properly and now prolactin over the limit. Any clues to decrease prolactin?