Crash after years

Symptoms
#1

Hello everyone,

Some of you might remember me. I’ve been dealing with PFS since 2014.

Back in early 2014, I experienced a very severe crash and went through almost every possible PFS symptom at their worst. Over the years, many of those symptoms gradually improved and things became more manageable.

But now something has happened that I really can’t explain. After 12 years, I seem to have crashed again for no clear reason.

It started with hypnic jerks and muscle spasms. For the past two days, I’ve completely lost the feeling of sleepiness. Yesterday I managed to sleep for about one hour, but today I honestly feel like I won’t be able to sleep at all.

I’m really scared. Has anyone experienced something like this? Is it possible for the body to suddenly lose the ability to feel sleepy like this? If I can’t sleep, could this become life-threatening?

I’m currently taking magnesium and melatonin, but they don’t seem to help at all.

I truly don’t understand why I crashed again after so many years or what triggered it. If anyone has experienced something similar or has any advice, I would really appreciate hearing from you.

Thank you.

#2

Really sorry to hear that man. Im sure something had to stir the pot in order for you to crash. It seems like the most innocuous things can do this. We are left in a highly sensitized state after PFS. Ive had two crashes since my initial crash that were bad enough to cause insomnia and hypnic jerks to return. Usually after a month or two things start to slowly settle in that department.

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#3

brutal man, it could be anything, stress, food, products or godknows what. we are never in the clear with this shit

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#4

The reason is not a supplement you took or certain habit. I also developed insomnia and sleep Problems 8 years after the initial crash. The insomnia took 5 months, then vanished away. Sleep Hours were from no sleep to 5 Hours.
I wish you good luck, be strong and keep fighting

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#5

Unfortunatelly I’m in similar situation. My crash happened after 7 years and started 2,5 months ago. Started few days after viral infection. First 6 days I slept for only 2 hours each night. Now I sleep more but my sleep is still super fragmented + shallow in early morning hours. I’m getting pretty anhedonic now :frowning:

#6

Tonight i experienced at least 50 times hypnic jerks and didnt allow me to sleep. I dont know what to do.

#7

Try sleeping on your stomach. That helped mitigate them for me.

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#8

Is there anyone from my 2014 crash period that I know currently active on the forum?

#9

Have struggled with insomnia ever since I developed PFS. Also take magnesium which helps occasionally. Other things that help (always occasionally) are marijuana sleep edibles, tryptophan (helps pretty consistently), and theanine.

#10

Thank you all for your support, but it still hasn’t gone away. Some days it gets better and I can sleep close to 6 hours, but on other days it still happens 15–20 times and I can only manage 2–3 hours of sleep. And even in that condition, I still have to go to work. The only thing I’ve noticed is that if I eat a heavy meal late at night, these hypnic jerks become much more frequent.

#11

I crashed a while back after years of being able to withstand most things without crashing. Lithium did it, and I’ve been trying to return to prior PFS state for months now.

I also started to get the hypnic jerks, and they often coincide with other autonomic nervous system changes like change in breathing. I thought it was the heart at first, but no, thankfully it is not.

Edit:
I should add that I’m a lot better than I was after that crash. Right now I get pain, brainfog those autonomic issues including the jerks, and PFSomnia which is very alert tired but wired feeling all night, BUT in waves. One day I can feel almost how I was before the lithium crash; and other times I’m in the bad state.

My current focus is lowering stress as much as possible, getting sunlight in the morning, going for walks etc