COULD DIRECT 3 ADIOL G SUPPLEMENTATION HELP US?

Therapeutic Efforts Pharmaceutical
#1

Hi guys,

I’ve found several bodybuilding supplements on the web that are aimed ad directly supplementing 5 alpha-androstane-3 alpha,17 beta-diol.

The only problem is that have all been discontinued as it is now a controlled substance since 2005. However the question remains could this be a beneficial treatment for post fin sides?

Here is a link to a product called 3 Alpha from Molecular Nutrition:

evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=4081

If low Adiol G is a common theme amongst post fin guys, could direct supplementation work or do we need to stimulate our own production?
Either way, it’s interesting. And if they can produce this hormone in commercial quantities why not 5AR2?

I guess somebody would need to discuss the possibilities with an endo.

Regards.

#2

That is certainly interesting, I wonder if any shops still sell it, secretly.

Regarding synthetic 5AR2, yes it exists:

propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1467

What the consequences would be of injecting it, however, is unknown.

#3

Yeah, ironic isn’t it that the FDA approves a drug that causes these kinds of side effects and then puts a ban on something that might help us.

Perhaps the best thing to do is make a post on a few bodybuilding forums or if someone could could get in touch with an endo that is sympathetic to our situation and ask about the possibility of supplementing this.

i don’t know that much about Adiol-G, but would supplementing it cause suppression of your natural production? i guess one possibility would be that if we could supplement it then possibly we could cycle it.

At the very least it would just be interesting to see if bringing up Adiol-G caused an improvement in symptoms as that way we might be able to isolate the actual problem of post fin syndrome.

You would assume 5 alpha-androstane-3 alpha,17 beta-diol must be still being produced somewhere, for lab test purposes at the very least.

#4

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#5

I’m not an expert but i imagine that you’d be more likely to get side effects from pushing your levels out of range. in the same way that steroid users get test shrinkage cause they push their testosterone levels into the stratosphere when on cycle which results in their bodies own production falling to nothing. It looks like most fin sufferers have sub optimal levels so i wouldn’t have thought bringing them into a healthy range would be a bad thing.

Ideally we’d be better off finding something that would stimulate our bodies to increase their own levels rather than just taking this but again i dunno, we’d need to discuss it with an endo.

But having said this, isn’t 3 Adiol-G and indicator of 5ar2 activity? so likely bringing up 5ar2 would result in an increase of 3 Adiol-G anyway?

#6

bodybuilding.com/store/5aa.html

This is another prohormone that might be useful.

5-AA (5-alpha-androstanediol)

It’s a precursor to DHT.

I also came across this line:

Using the 3HSD enzyme it is capable of restoring androgenic capacity if it is hindered.

3HSD is 3-ß-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase

Does this mean anything to anyone? Sorry but I’m not that flash on the finer points of hormone conversion.