i took proscar 1/4 for 3 days got testicular pain for on 2nd and 3rd day so i quit…went back to norm week 2…week 3 experiencing low libido ed always tired and cant concentrate…currently taking zinc…anyone have same situation and recovered? How long? Lawsuit in u.s.? Thx
Copy this template into your Member Stoery, and fill it out so we can get acquainted with your history with the drug. Then people can give better feedback.
mew im on my phone and my phone doesnt have the feature to copy and paste but i am 20 years old took proscar 1/4 for 3 days…and the basics i wrote above…and i almost forgot i took a blood test in the 3rd week after quiting and my free testosterone was a 9.6 range 9.3-26 …im 20 years old what the hell is happening?
Wait till you get home and use your computer. Read FAQ at top of site for overview of what is happening.
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Where are you from (country)? new york
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How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)
google -
What is your current age, height, weight?
20 5’7 130 (used to be 140) -
Do you excercise regularly? If so, what type of excercise?
not anymore but i plan -
What type of diet do you eat (vegetarian, meat eater, raw, fast-food/organic healthy)? try healthy
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Why did you take Finasteride (hair loss, BPH, other)?
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For how long did you take Finasteride (weeks/months/years)?
3 days -
How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start Finasteride?
20 , june 19 2009 -
How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit?
20, june 22 2009 -
How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?
vold turkey -
What type of Finasteride did you use – Propecia, Proscar, Fincar or other generic?
proscar 1/4 -
What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?
1/4 -
How long into your use of Finasteride did you notice the onset of side effects?
2nd and 3rd day noticed testicular pain, ed, low libido, WATERY SEMEN -
What side effects did you experience while on the drug that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?
ed, low libido, and sometimes i feel very tired, WATERY SEMEN
Put an X beside all that apply:
Sexual
[X ] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[X] Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[X] Loss of Morning Erections
[X ] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[ ] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[X ] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility
Mental
[ ] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[X ] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ ] Confusion
[ ] Memory Loss / Forgetfullness
[X ] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[X ] Slurring of Speech
[ ] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[ ] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[ ] Depression / Melancholy
Physical
[ ] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness (IM NOT SURE ABOUT THIS ONE)
[ ] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[ ] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain (SENSATION IN JOINT)
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes (SOMETIMES I FEEL VERY TIRED MIGHT)
Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[ ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ ] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature
[ ] Other (please explain)
- What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
ZINC - If you have pre or post-Finasteride bloodtests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (pls post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?
the 2nd week after quiting i was back to normal again, then by 3rd week started to get sides again…so i took blood test on free testosterone…the doctor told me it would prob come out high bec finasteride raises testosterone but it came out a 9.6 Range 9.3-26…im 20 years old! - Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience with Finasteride?
i started zinc in the 4th week after quitting - Tell us your story, in your own words, about your Finasteride usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug. every thing is listed above… im currently gonna go to a endochronoligist…i hope for recovery bec its only been a month and i only took it for 3 days… any one here have a similar story and recovered?? thx
Hey there Ace. I only took 2 pills, but my dosage was higher (you took 3 5mg 1/4 pills, I took 2 whole 5mg pills). I’m having pretty much the same symptoms as you are, but my last pill was 2 days ago, so I still need time for it to flush itself out of my system. I just hope and pray that out bodies return to normal.
Hey Mew, how often do people who’ve taken as low a dosage as we have develop problems later on?
Wish I knew, but its statistically impossible to know.
Don’t know if low dosages will make any difference due to near flat dose response of drug, per physics.upenn.edu/facultyinf … index.html
… and propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1170
My guess is it’s more a question of the interaction between each individual’s genetics, individual hormone balance, androgen receptor CAG repeat sensititivy to Finasteride:
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2242
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1406
… and 5AR2 enzyme pharmacogenetic variation affecting response to the drug, that would probably determine your response to it.
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1407
In short, it’s our bodies that determine how we respond to the drug, and how things will play out after quitting.
holy shit you took the whole 5 mg did you take it for hairloss?? otherwise why so much?
Nah my hair is fine, I took it to try to help my prostatorrhea. I read about it in this article: andrologyjournal.org/cgi/con … l/28/3/374 It’s what my doctor prescribed me, but from what I read it probably doesn’t make a huge difference whether it’s a large or small dose.
Yes, watch this space… I’m working on this and the more on-board the merrier.
how do you know if your testicles are working properly/recovering?
if they come closer to penis…or hang low?? or both??
did anyones testicles get bigger after they recovered??
Yes… When I had my recovery experience, my testes increased in size significantly, and no longer sagged.
its very wierd why for weeks im feeling pretty normal then all of a sudden i cant get an erection for a week straight… i currently got this white lump in my rectum i dont know if this has anything to do with it but when i got this lump my ed started coming back…im currently 2 months off propecia now… im prob gonna go to the doctor to see what the lump is and i forgot to take the blood test at my endocrinologist appointment so ill have to go back… i m very pissed off at bernstien who convinced me that its only a 1% chance and even the 1% it goes away, then i told him what about online all these people that are against propecia and say they had these side effects… he then said its lies… that fuckn piece of shit if i only would of stuck to my gut feeling nothing would of happen…
It is totally normal to feel unhorny for a week only.
would zinc work if i took 22 mg forever??
i think im definitely recovering its been 4 1/2 months since i quit. im getting good morning erections most of the time now and some times even random erections during the dat, and my mind feels normal again, but i still dont feel normal bec there are times during the day where i dont have libido and my prostate feels pressured and my balls are hanging real low. so i need help to know whats the deal with the prostate, is it being pressured bec im recovering …mybe some one can explain to me scientifically whats going on???
thx!
I think it’s unopposed oestrogen activity.
The science behind benign prostatic hypertrophy or hyperplasia is that oestrogen causes growth of the prostate. Oestrogen levels rise as you get older.
Oestrogen is opposed by DHT. Your oestrogen may be normal (or high) but it also may not be being opposed by DHT…unopposed oestrogen activity.
That’s why you need to get Adiol G levels checked. To check your DHT activity and thus whether you have DHT to oppose oestrogen.
If you live in a country where you can check 3 alpha androstanediol glucuronide activity (Adiol G), you have NO excuse to not getting this test done…so do it NOW.
Low Adiol G has been a REAL breakthrough here and everyone MUST check it. It is, quite frankly, your duty.
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interesting… so according to your theory i would need more dht to bbe cured…the body cant produce more dht on its own?? mybe body is doing it by itself for me. because i have cycles sort of, i get morning erections its just during the day.
and how are you so sure its caused by this… what does this have to do with the adrenal hormone?
For Christ’s sake Chiller.
Have you read the link on Adiol G? I can’t believe you’ve bothered to lie in bed and theorise and then make the effort to type in some half baked crap into the computer without reading and understanding the significance of Adiol G.
Here it is. Read it. Understand it. From top to bottom. OK?
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=761
You will note that serum DHT level is ‘meaningless’. This is because serum DHT is contributed to by 5AR1 and 5AR2 ezymes. We are more interested in the INTRACELLULAR DHT as it is the INTRACELLULULAR DHT that has it’s effect on the prostate, genitals, breast tissue, and I think scalp tissue.
A lack of DHT activity here could explain our symptoms.
Now, what contributes to INTRACELLULAR DHT? Yes, 5AR2 mainly. We may all have buggered 5AR2 enzymes. 5AR2 is responisble for the INTRACELLULAR conversion of Testosterone to DHT.
Now, I don’t think there is an easy way of ramping up 5AR2. At least, not a civilised way.
But the DHT heptanoate study shows that DHT (albeit urinary) metabolites are increased with DHT injections, so possibly our Adiol G levels could be corrected by DHT injections.
As for adrenal gland, I am less informed as I have no signs of adrenal burnout, but I’ve read that adrenal burnout (acc to Crisler) is easily treated by a discerning physician. I should really educate myself more about this.
Chiller, where is your Adiol G test result? When are you getting it done?
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=8
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2002
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=761
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2763
Chiller, how about you read the above links?
They are CRUCIAL to your understanding of what COULD be going on. There’s no point lying in bed at night theorising about how your life may have gone down the toilet without EDUCATING yourself on the links above.
I’d advise everyone here to do this.
If these links wee around in 2001 when this flaming shit hit me, I’d have jumped on it. Instead, I’ve been thrashing around in the dark for years.
I mean, you guys have it easy. All you have to do is read it and understand it. It’s on a damn plate for you. Instead, you post soggy comments that show you clearly don’t understand what is going on. It mentions the important functions of 5AR enzymes.
Please read them and test your Adiol G. Stop lying in bed at night with your soul all twisted up, and get your ass into gear. OK?