Hello I did candida albicans test and I have it… does anyone know if it’s important to our problems?
what do u think about?
Search the user “majkellos” and “gottaproblem” posts, he believes candida due to Progesterone imbalance is the key to all of our problems. I and others disagree, however, and it turns out he has been diagnosed with “chlamydia pneumoniae”. Plenty of threads on this topic already, ie:
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1256
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewt … ht=candida
propeciahelp.com/forum/viewt … ht=candida
How did you “test” for candida? Doctor, blood tests, urine tests? Self-diagnosis? Please post the results.
No. The whole chain reaction goes like this:
Downregulation of immune system caused by finasteride/dutasteride ----> higher exposition to bacteria (pneumoniae, mycoplasma) —> cellular damage and failure ----> further and deeper immune downregulation ----> fungal infection (candida or other parasites like dermatofits)----->
Cellular failure within tissues due to pneumoniae—> especialy those with plenty of 5 alpha reductase become incapable of converting hormons properly. This causes progesteron and cortisol imbalance, due to the poor cellular converiton. Cumulated progesteron supress neurotransmitters and becomes 5 alpha reductase inhibitor by itself. ----> progesteron imbalance directly causes Candida!! (candida loves progesteron environment, that’s why Candida is more likely reported in woman taking progestins as birth control pills) plus you get CFS and this what someone called hypersesitivity to any foods, cosmetics with any 5 alpha reductase inhibition abilities, obviously it can be followed with reduced hairloss, to the one you would normaly have.
This is the whole complexed process of chain reaction. The main role is the effective exposition to bacteria (most likely pneumoniae or mycoplasma pn) where finasteride creates a positive environment for the bacteria to evolve.
This is the big picture of pneumoniae infection causing wide variety of sides including fungal toxication. Unfortunetely candida is only the piece of or the end if you want of these complexed puzzles.
Discovery of the most effective new pneumoniae treatment (not legalized yet) ----> progesteron killer RU 486
aac.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/AAC.01416-07v1
Ch pn american site
To italian guy:
Candida was not created just by itself and not due to finasteride directly.
You were propably exposed to pneumoniae some time ago. It might have been even years ago (in my case it was prostatitis caused by pneumoniae 6 years ago). Candida could only evolve due to your immune downregulation, not the finasteride itself. If you deal with pneumoniae it is difficult to treat and it demands long course of antibiotics to battle. Your case might be similar to mine cause my pneumoniae infection was finaly followed by candida infection.
Things that you have to do now:
Full chlamydia pneumoniae panel: (IGG result might be the crucial cause you might have been infected long time ago)
Mycoplasma pneumoniae panel.
Bring your results back and i will tell you what to do next.
Cheers.
PS: Mew, do you already have your results??
PS2: Most problems of the people on this board are caused by finasteride but not directly, … unfortunetely… I would rather call fin as mediator or your passport to the further problems.
To find candida I did a shit test searching for “fungals”…
Test says:
candida albicans: positive ---- in a lot number .
SHIT CHEMICAL/FISIOLOGY:
colour brown
rheum absent
reaction acid
bilinogeno present
MICROSCOPIC EXAM:
amid absent
fat absent
fat acids absent
fibres absent
vegetal residues present +
I still don’t know what’s bilinogeno…I’ll have a specialist visit on thursday.
…6 mouth ago, I also tested my prostate and I had prostatitis… I had more exams for that, and I have some infections, than, just 4 days ago, a specialist doctor gave me antibiothics for prostatitis.
I have a question: I have candida+prostatitis…what do u think I could do?
If i cure prostatitis first (1 mouth cure), my candida cuold be worse… but I feel pain from my prostatitis, than I think I’ll cure it first . Anyway thursday I 'll go to specialist for candida and see what he says about and what more test he wants to make me do.
LET ME KNOW WHAT DO U THINK.
THANKS GUYS.
heh
dude candida bacteria is always inside you , it’s no surprise you found some in your shit
i tried the candida diet for 2 months (no grains , no sugars , no fruit) and it didn’t really do much for me , it was expensive (meat , nuts and vegetables are expensive compared to rice etc) very boring and long hours in the kitchen.
if you want to lose weight though it’s great…
I did this test to find candida.
Test says positive.
I know it’s normal there is candida in shit…
I know that everyone has candida inside but my test says I have candida! if it was in normal range, test wouldn’t say positive candida .
I think that “positive result” means that I have more candida than what I must have in my body .
Italysides… I do not know what you are talking about! Did you even manage to read my post… There is a compete information for you what should be done. Did you notice that I expected you to have prostatitis before you even mentioned that.
Tests that you simply MUST DO if you are dealing with prostatitis and candida now:
CHLAMYDIA PNEUMONIAE
MYCOPLASMA PNEUMONIAE
For a knowledgable doctor it will not be only a matter of 1 month treatment and it will require not only one antibiotic. Before you will find one you will go through endless number of dump motherfuckers calling themselfs as “doctors”
If pneumoniae will be detected you have to seek help and ask for a doctor some members of Italian pneumoniae forum. You should better start seeking for it right now.
ok I’ll let u know everything.
Hi gottaproblem…I would like to know exactly what kind of “tests” I can do to find if I have CHLAMYDIA PNEUMONIAE and MYCOPLASMA PNEUMONIAE…I mean: are they blood test? or what else?
I ask you this because I can see a lot of incompetence from doctors,so if you tell me what you do to search them, I’ll see if what I’m doing is right.
thank you so much…I agree with your theory that 1 step are bacteries and we have to shut down them first.thank you again!
Hi.
You do not have to agree nor disagree… we are fighting the same battle. If my inteligence and experience can help in putting yourself on a right track that’s enough and satisfying for me.
You have to do full ch pn panel. All possible markers. From IGG… IGA and DNA test if possible. I bet your IGG for ch pn is 4 maybe 5 times over the range. Also, You have to do mycoplasma panel in case of the co-infection, but the protocols to cure them are pretty much the same for both.
These are the blood tests plus demand a full morphology including monocytes. I bet they are up the roof…
When you will start your treatment expect a “herxy” reaction. It is when infected cells are dying. It means it has to go worse first before it getts better. You will get “herxy” reaction right from the begining because “herxy” is also associated with candida. There will be ups and downs while you will change your diet… Recovery gets very slow and comes in a sinusoidal manner. Removing candida will give some more power to your cellular energy, but it will only be the point from which you will be allowed to start curing your cellular primary disaster caused by pneumoniae.
First signs of improvement comes from changes in your sleep pattern. Getting slowly the better sleep from one night to another will show you are getting in the right direction
Good luck.
as i’m open to new ideas despite how unlikely they may be i recently had my endo give me a full pneumoniae panel. turns out not only did my results not come back positive for CPN but my IGG was borderline zero, meaning I haven’t even been exposed to it. So I think this scenario is highly unlikely for mostly anyone here based on these results and the discussions I’ve had on the issue with two very qualified doctors.