BrongFog's Tried and True PFS Supplements

Therapeutic Efforts Supplements & Lifestyle
#1

Hey guys, everyone is different but I wanted to give a list of things that are sure-fire items to get me feeling better in certain circumstances. My PFS symptoms have decreased dramatically since I started but when they get worse here are my go-to items that I use sparingly :

50 mg Zinc Gluconate (other types did not work) taken on an empty stomach. You’ll feel nauseous for about 10 min but it removes the foggy feeling about an hour later making it totally worth it. If you take this for a long time you’ll have to add in copper as excessive Zinc lowers copper. 100 mg taken in two separate doses for really big days makes me feel like a champ.

5-HTP: 100-200 mg on empty stomach. The effects of this take anywhere from 14 to 24 hours to take effect (take it the night before a day when you’ll need it) but it’s clearer thinking, less anxiety and a better mood. Lasts all day and for me it only works if I take it once every 3-4 days, if I take every day then it stops working so I use it for weekends when I need it. I use the regular vitamin shoppe brand.

Bacopa: I order mine from swansons, take two 250mg capsules and it makes me more laid back and less anxiety and sometimes I feel better thinking (feel wittier). Takes about three hours to kick in then lasts all day.

Tongkat Ali 1:200 extract: This is very expensive but when I take a couple of pills twice a day for three days I get erections pretty easy and feel all around a bit better. Nocturnal erections always return 100% of the time when I take this. May not be worth it just so you can wake up with a boner. Doesn’t do much else for me.

Citrulline Malate: I use this before soccer games and have found it increases my endurance slightly. I only notice it because I pay close attention. I would describe it like this: If typically I could sprint 100 yards max, this will allow me to go about 110 yards, very slight may not be worth it for you but works every time for me. Lasts about 5 hours.

L-Glutamine: I take 5-10 grams at one time and it gives me more energy and I can think clearer. Lasts a good 10-15 hours.

50 mg of a Caffeine pill: Better mood and better thinking, not enough to feel a crash. Works in about 20 min and lasts about three hours.

Microdose Progesterone cream: I use the Biovea brand and just use 1mg. It’s really just a tiny amount. To give you an idea, an erasers head size of the cream is around 5mg and you want 1/5 of that… you wouldn’t believe it could do anything for you but I put it on the palm of my hand and rub it into my neck and within 15 minutes I feel all around better. Lasts about 10 hours.

Melatonin: 2mg taken an hour before bed and I sleep nice. Shouldn’t be taken every night, just when I need it.

Sunbathing: This always has a big impact on me. If I get out in the sun when it’s high in the sky (not after 3pm etc) with my shirt off for about 6-7 days straight (20-30 min a day) then I feel WAY better. More energy, better thinking, everything. This isn’t practical for everyone and I’m not sure if it works in tanning booths. Takes about a week to kick in and lasts about 3-4 days after you stop getting sun. I don’t know if it continues to make you feel good if you keep getting sun.

I may be forgetting some but those are my main ones, leave some that work for you if you want. Let me know if you try any of these and how it goes.

I’m not a doctor and this isn’t medical advice!

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#2

BFB would you say the progesterone is improving your condition? You’ve been on it about 2 months so far correct?

#3

Good post, interesting stuff in here.

#4

I believe it slowly is improving symptoms but it’s too up and down to tell right now so my answer is “I don’t know”. I’m very hesitant to give credit to anything until I’m very sure it’s working as there are too many times I’ve felt better and then went back to feeling PFS again. What I can say for sure is that very consistently if I take 1mg of progesterone I feel better (better mood and better thinking) for about 5-6 hours. It works every time I’ve tried it. It’s subtle but enough to notice it if you know your body well. I currently do not do this because the progesterone protocol is 5mg a day, not 1…but if this doesn’t work then I’ve still picked up a new trick :smiley:

#5

Nice work BFB. Here’s my hot tipFs:

Melatonin works alright - I take 2mg/1mg seldomly and sleep is easier to get for me (maybe) but it can be more superficial, meaning that I might wake up to a dream or nightmare and stuff and it’s hard to get sleep again. Or maybe I just lay in bed with racing thoughts, never really catching sleep. It’s tricky, certainly useful but a lot of it’s effectiveness probably depends on how good is your sleep/adrenal issues in general i guess.

Magnesium (chelated/glycinate) helps me with sleep, giving me a deeper, longer sleep… but originally, it used to keep me awake with racing thoughts, meaning that somehow it boosted my cortisol/adrenals into hyperactivity.

  • Bovine Adrenal Cortex: To shallow sleep; waking up at 5am and unable to get sleep again -problems; post-work out problems; when under lot of stress. Don’t take it every day. Helps with adrenal issues (supposedly by supplementing cortisol) that are really common in PFS. Sometimes tricky to get the timing right - i usually take 1 pill before sleep when I want guaranteed sleep but during day time, you might mistake adrenal problems with somethign else and you end up over-stressed/worked up for an hour. It’s nothing serious though.

  • L-Tyrosine: for brainfog problems and for lifting mood. It gets turned into L-dopa and then to dopamine by Vit D. I take it post-sex or when I get brainfog problems - I can nearly entirel avoid brainfog with this. Don’t take every day, possibly affects LH if taken chronically (i can’t remember the exact study, user Dynaaminen bought this fact first into light in this forum).

And now that we are on the subject of amino acids:
I kinda don’t prefer L-Theanine - it’s the good stuff in green teas and it can make you calm, collected, somewhat serene-like even in a stressful situation (like eg in exam situation) but I think the effect is a little too subdued/slight and it really does next to nothing to sleep problems or brainfog-problems, which IMO are more important in a sink or swim - situations. Maybe not worth the cost? Would like to hear your opinion on this, eg with how it works in your work life etc.

#6

hey gefinuser. thanks for the suggestions, I haven’t tried that specific type of magnesium yet, will give it a go when it’s time to replace my magnesium (I do Citrate).

I’ve taken l-theanine at all types of doses and really experimented with it because I read so much good about it. I’ve always found it to be hit or miss; when it hits (hits maybe 1 out of 5 tries) I have zero anxiety and smoother thinking, when it doesn’t I just don’t feel anything. Pycnogenol is the same for me, but hits more often (maybe 3 out of five times), if I could make it work every time it would be awesome!

#7

Where do you get your tongkat Ali from?

Link?

#8

I’d try this one out for a while. It didn’t work for me enough to keep trying it.

iherb.com/Source-Naturals-To … =null&ic=1

#9

I’ve only tried the most expensive and authentic Tongkat Ali which is made by Pasak Bumi. It’s known to be the gold standard in tongkat ali but is also very expensive. I don’t get it anymore just because it didn’t do all that much more than give me morning woods but here’s a list of authentic tongkat ali sellers:

tongkatali.org/resellers.htm

here’s one in the USA but any of them will work as long as they say pasak bumi

authentictongkatali.com/

#10

Hi BrongFogBoy-

I read your profile and your “brain fog” sounds extremely similar to mine. Would you say it has seen some improvements since then? “I don’t recall how long I’ve been in a place, an hour could be ten minutes or twenty seconds, this is not the reality I know at all.” I think this is one of the trickiest feelings I am dealing with. Is that still persistent? I really hope not. How would you say your dieting has been? Thanks for your time.

#11

try whey protein and creatine , whey has l thyroisn and l glutamin in it