Broccoli Treatment for Prostatitis / reducing Estrogens

[Dreiser]

@kirrabeachbum

DIM is an anti-androgen. It inhibits DHT from binding to androgen receptors. I found Propecia on a bodybuilding site once too. The whole premise is that when DHT is blocked, more testosterone is the result because it is not converted to DHT anymore. Insofar as broccoli, I’m under the impression that DHT is not blocked from forming, just that it is blocked from reaching androgen receptors, similar to equol me thinks. If that’s the case then I would think the same amount of testosterone exists. For someone that doesn’t do all their research, they might think that broccoli blocks DHT from forming (a la Propecia), instead of simply blocknig DHT frmo attaching to androgen receptors, but still allowing it to form. Read below.

berkeley.edu/news/media/releases … ncer.shtml

Hey guys. I did so much research the last couple of weeks, but unfortunately the more I read the more confused I get.

From what I read so far, I thought brokkoli works as an 5-AR inhibitor (just like Propecia). So you say it’s not? Maybe my english and biological knowledge is too bad, but what’s the difference in the result between “blocking dht” and “blocking dht from attaching to androgen receptors”. Isn’t it both bad?

Well it all leads to my final question: Can Broccoli help us or will it cause the exact opposite?

Just to let you know: I suffer from far too high SHBG and low free T and am looking for a natural way to get it in balance again.

[5_alpha_victim]

@Dreiser

@kirrabeachbum

DIM is an anti-androgen. It inhibits DHT from binding to androgen receptors. I found Propecia on a bodybuilding site once too. The whole premise is that when DHT is blocked, more testosterone is the result because it is not converted to DHT anymore. Insofar as broccoli, I’m under the impression that DHT is not blocked from forming, just that it is blocked from reaching androgen receptors, similar to equol me thinks. If that’s the case then I would think the same amount of testosterone exists. For someone that doesn’t do all their research, they might think that broccoli blocks DHT from forming (a la Propecia), instead of simply blocknig DHT frmo attaching to androgen receptors, but still allowing it to form. Read below.

berkeley.edu/news/media/releases … ncer.shtml

Hey guys. I did so much research the last couple of weeks, but unfortunately the more I read the more confused I get.

From what I read so far, I thought brokkoli works as an 5-AR inhibitor (just like Propecia). So you say it’s not? Maybe my english and biological knowledge is too bad, but what’s the difference in the result between “blocking dht” and “blocking dht from attaching to androgen receptors”. Isn’t it both bad?

Well it all leads to my final question: Can Broccoli help us or will it cause the exact opposite?

Just to let you know: I suffer from far too high SHBG and low free T and am looking for a natural way to get it in balance again.

I just recently stumbled upon this thread. Very intresting concept:

Blocking DHT’s ability to work at receptors in the body VS blocking the actual conversion of testosterone to DHT. This is very intresting and leads me to some important questions my self:

I’m not sure if I can answere any of your questions but if your simply asking what is the diff between blocking DHT’s ability "to make its connection with the receptor"or blocking the actually production of DHT than the answre is simple.

When a DHT inhibiter such as propecia “blocks DHT” it’s working on the 5 alpha reductase enzymas in the body that actually takes testosterone and converts certain amounts of it to DHT. So the makers are these drugs figured out how to “attack” these enzymes and thought that, that was an acceptable way to accomplish the goal of reducing the anounts of DHT in the body. Of course they where wrong… Cause here we are.

Preventing DHT from reacting to receptors in the body is completly different because first off you are not attacking the 5ar enzyme to prevent it from doing what it is that the 5ar enzymes do and second of all you are not actually reducing the amounts of DHT ln your blood. Not sure if you already knew that or not do I made it clear.

My questions are:

How do we know a DHT inhibiter such as propecia is not actually preventing DHT in the blood from “acting” on or “seeing” the receptors…

It a substance or broccoli or anything for that matter has the ability to block DHT f on their appropriate receptors, would doong so actually have the ability to shrink the prostate ?

Would people like us (who are extemely senstive to fucking with are DHT levels) still have the potential to have s crazy adverse reaction to this method of action (blocking DHT at the receptor)

This is a very intresting concept to me as I have BPH and I’m looking for ways to shring my prostate without obviously taking a DHT inhibiter and with out having surgery.

I’m glad I found this thread. It has me thinking in new directions.

Also of I was you and of your plan is to reduce your SHBG levels I would do this by trying to reduce estrogen and at the same time trying to increase your testosterone levels.