boston332's story

You couldnt make out what some of the descriptions were under the results due to poor quality of the fax. So, I couldnt read under the IGF-1 description which may say what the “f” stands for. Yes, my IGF-1 was sky just a few months ago.

I will discuss all the results with Dr. Jacobs next Tuesday. Will be good to talk with him and see if he’s having any success at all with any other treatments.

@bostonusa, yes I’m fatigued all the time. I had a busy day yesterday so I took a shot of TRT, a huge cup of coffee, a b12 shot, and 2 tabs of triple ginseng at about 6 30am and I was still tired all day.

pain after ejaculation, penis shaft more sore, testicals ache more

prostatitis

good night
wait on androgen resistance research and maybe then you will understand what prostatitis is all about.
take care
bye bye

I don’t appreciate hit and runs. Not to mention it’s way off topic. As you can see, I’ve never complained of prostate pain or inflamation.

go for a transrectal ultrasound man
you are wasting your health and seeking for ghost research
all the symptoms you have are of inflammatory nature
even the shrinking of your penis

really

stop acting childish

Enough of this. Solonjk, he knows your position and does not agree with your opinion, end of story. No need to continue back and forth here, there is another thread dedicated to that. Please respect each others’ member stories.

Mew you should stop backing up ppl that are trying to deliberately mess up my thread just for the heck of pleasure or because they are not capable of going for treatment.

He posts where he shouldn’t post continuously in an ironic manner trying to degrade everything and dissuade people from attempting treatment for his own purposes.

But the funniest of all is that he suffers from the most OBVIOUS prostatic inflammatory problems ever.

I mean this is getting fucking insane. He has a sign on his head writting prostatitis and he tries to pull us out of treating it.

its like someone who abuses narcotics has his teeth fallen off, and doesn’t want to go to the dentist but also tries to hinder others from going too…

ok i get it, its another post finasteride side effect, depersonalisation… or derealisation

Had labs done last Wednesday afternoon, 11/23/2011.

Total T: 434, range 241 - 827 ng/ml
Prolactin: 8.9, range 2.1 - 17.7 ng/ml

Still waiting on e2, SHBG among others. The order said “non fasting” so I did have a small lunch a few hours prior. Not sure what to make of the low Prolactin and if it means there is an issue with my pituitary. FSH and LH have seemed to run high in the past. The low T isnt surprising considering how I’ve felt extremely fatigued and completely unmotivated lately.

Labs taken on same day as above.

e2 - 45 , range 13-54
DHT - 35, range 25-75
SHBG- 33, range 10-50

may i ask if your depression got away or something positive in that area?
and brain fog?
wish you the best … god …

Can you tell me your FREE T?

Also what about your free / silivary cortisol?

Your E is probably too high.

I think Free T : E is a good metric.

Please don’t use my thread as a soap box for prostatitus or to flame the admins. If you want to express an opinion or have a particular question that’s fine. I’ve never described any prostate pain nor do I have any signs of an enlarged prostate. No offense but it’s hard enough to try to go back and sort through information without having a huge prostatitus post including some interview I have no interest in. Please post it on the prostatitus thread in the theories section. If you have a particular question regarding my case that actually relates to my side effects or labs just post the question with a link to the information you are referencing. I respect your opinion and I’m not saying the prostate has not been effected by Fin but it’s just too much stuff to try to sort through when I’m trying to go back and look at labs and other things. I’ve asked an admin to move the body of your post to the theories section or just remove it entirely, not sure if that will happen or not.

Also, I wonder if you arn’t trying to flame me as you have certinaly read my above posts and know where I stand on the issue.

Thanks

I assume you are not referring to my post?

Correct. I was referring to one that has been since moved to the Prostatitus thread.

Any answers 2 my questions?

Wow stupid ego stuff is truly going in the way of ppl health now. My post was there only to help you, really. I bothered typing all this to help you and other ppl with testicle pain that naturally instinctively dont understand that in 90% of cases testicle pains is referred pain from prostatitis, even with no other symptoms or any prostate pain. You have testicle pain, you should try to get a decent uro look at your prostate, thats the mot sensible advice someone could ever give on this forum,
I cant beleive you wouldnt want to rule out prostate inflammation “because you dont beleive in prostatitus theory”. I was not talking about prostatitis as a THEORY, but as a fact, many ppl here have pelvic pain and/or inflammation of the prostate, many with confirmation by ultraound and/or EPS analysis. . I do not beleive anymore that PFS is prostatitis, that everybody here has prostatitis, or that PFS is infection related, I dont beleive in ANYTHING anymore, but I beleive in adressing symptoms in a logical way at least. I told you I had ball pain only and I have chronic prostatitis, a fact, several urologists have confirmed it in FRANCE, my prostate is slightly swollen, hard and aching on the left side upon DRE, TRUS shows a inflamed spot on the left lobe, and my prostatic fluid has a lot of leucocytes=inflammation. A LOT of ppl with prostatitis DO NOT have “prostate pain nor sign of an enlagred prostate”. My prostate is NOT enlarged at all and most of the time I urinate like a race horse. I very seldom have direct prostate pains, in fact before Kos I didnt have any. I had the exact same symptoms you have. And turns out I have prostatitis. After the Kos fiasco I doubted that I ever had prostatitis, so I got the diagnosis from repurted french uros, and they confirmed it. I cant beleive you had my post removed as it was truly helpful, not only for you, but could have helped other ppl. Instead ppl with testicle pain will keep on looking only at hormones before having their protate checked. Great job.

SOmeone with testicle pain refusing another one’s advice to check for prostatitis only because “he doesnt have interest in prostatitis” is amongts the most moronic, and self-destructing thing Ive ever seen. I really dont care about your opinions on theories on PFS and I understand you dont care about mine, but you should not ignore someone’s advice like this, especially when he know what he is talking about. My advices to you were not an “opinion” that has to be “respected” (I couldnt care less) but sensible hard-knowledge-based advice that it’s all in your interest not to ignore. I will probably have to bother making a decent prostatitis thread after all the BS that have been posted here, and after that its the last time I try to help someone in here. Yes I genuinely was trying to HELP you here. I posted the link to Shoske’s FAQ because its exhaustive and well done and up to date, I wish I had read this earlyer before going to Kos or even before trying other hormonal approaches before, this is truly a effing GOLD NUGGET for anybody suffering from any kind of pelvic pain, but you cleverly had it removed and taken to a HIDDEN thread, great job. Now have this post removed again so ppl can only focus on lab numbers as you wished, and keep ignoring your testicle pain as much as you like.

EDIT: Didnt pay attention to this : “a soap box for prostatitus” ??? Do you want to read that again and think about it for a second??? You think I have a hardon for prostatitis or what? You think ppl that sufferer have nothing else in mind that promote their pet theory by spamming ppl’s threads?? (I dont even beleive in prostatitis as a “theory” anyway!!) This forum is FUCKED! The name is propeciaHELP and this is what it should be about!!

Venceremos,
I have pelvic pain and i have had testicle pain, and i don’t have prostatitis. I have done a transrectal ultrasound, a pelvic ultrasound and a pelvic MRI, and it doesn’t show prostatitis. The fact that someone has testicle pain doesn’t mean that he has prostatitis. I think it is quite obvious that PFS is much more than this.

ehh,

1)you can have prostatitis without these tests being positive. The only, well the best so far, although far from perfect, way to diagnose prostatitis is a TRUS+color doppler (this is important) by a competent uro/radiologist experienced in diagnosing prostatitis, and confront the findings to a 4 glass stamey test or equivalent, with cultures for an extensive panel of pathogens (but the leucocyte number is what matters most). I had a TRUS in France from a “regular” radiologist whom hasnt been able to see the prostatitis signs from the ultrasound. It took a competent radiologist at institut fournier in Paris, where several reputed docs specialists in STDs, prostatitis and other related diseases work, to “see” the prostatitis from the TRUS+color doppler (confronted to the stamey test findings = diagnosis of “chronic inflammatory abacterial prostatitis”)

2)you can have testicle/pelvic pain without prostatic inflammation indeed, boston removed the post where i was talking about this. Pelvic floor myoneuropathy (stanford studies), interstitial cystitis, pudendal neuropathy are only some of the other diseases that can cause very similar symptoms to prostaitis. But I know for a fact that testicle pain can be referred pain from the prostate from my daily prostate massage experience in Kos. You can ask me why but you can guess from this sentence. The problem is that boston refuses this possibility without having done any test/diagnosis of prostatitis and not knowing any better. Well I guess it’s his choice. You have testicle pain and attempted to get a prostatitis diagnosis (although you probably didnt get reliable one), this what every people with pelvic pain have to do = rule out prostatitis by seeking competent diagnosis before moving on, not dismiss it solely because “you don’t beleive in it”. At least your claim to have testicle pain but no prostatitis is based on testing, not on nothing but “opinion” or “belief”.

Btw please google pudendal neuropathy to educate yourself about this. I have very, very good reasons to tell you this. Please check my posts there (dont mean to cite myself as a source, but im too lazy to type the same thing over and over on many different posts)
viewtopic.php?p=53628#p53628
more importantly viewtopic.php?p=53632#p53632 (check the whole thread if you want)

You also need to know that MRI are worthless for a pudendal neuropathy diagnosis (fact, not my opinion). Best and only way so far = (special procedure)EMG+pelvic echo-doppler. You will learn more about this soon as we are getting ready to diffuse the info and make it official.

EDIT:
Boston, sorry to kind of hijack your thread once again, I promise it’s the last time, I just had to reply to eeh and get some attention directed towards the pudendal neuropathy thing (I hope you understand why). You can of course remove my post above this one (have it moved to the prostatis thread?), Ive been repeating myself anyway and wrote it on an impulse (as you can see from the multiple typos, repeated ??? and !!! etc).

His E2 is high. This causes prostate inflammation.

A bit hastily put, but more than likely true (so far mostly animal studies show this, few human studies hve been conducted - you cant allow to inject estradiol in humans to create autoimmune prostatitis and screening for such cases is complicted)
Just a tiny fraction of the studies on the subject
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8863627
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10861753
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22145816
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22010203
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19757087
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19700748
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19515173
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18583549
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18093629
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1463048/?tool=pubmed (one of the few studies on the subject with humns)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10878975 (another human study, not sure of its relevance, abstract is unclear)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10878975

That’s it, I wont mention prostatitis on boston’s thread anymore unless he asks about it.