Best Ways You've Found To Bring Yourself To Normality?

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#1

Guys, I’m going through a hard time, so I’m going to share with you some ways I’ve used in the past to get up after feeling completely brain fogged the fuck out. I’m talking about when after you exercise, and you feel like you are so fucking spaced out of reality, you can’t comprehend or relate to anyone. Sound familar?

Pomegranite juice. Why? I believe it’s because it boosts nitric oxide. I’ve had many times I’ve used it and feel myself coming back to reality again. Also, beet juice has the same effect. They both boost nitric oxide. I think the lack of nitric oxide is somehow causing the massive brain fog problem or something, I honestly do not know. But I have seen it time and time again, everything that boosts nitric oxide helps lift me out. Search google for other nitric oxide boosters and you will see they all do help from what I have found. Just don’t overdo it with some random supplement.

No carb diet. Why? I have no fucking idea. Finasteride fucked my digestion completely, when I eat carbs, I am completely out of it. COmbine carbs and exercise and I am doneso. God, this is torture.

What else do you guys have? I’m totally completely spaced out recently, I need to get myself back. I have to go no carb, keep up high nitric oxide things, and lay low on exercise. I’m going to do yoga 5x/week or as much as I fucking can, and 100% no masturbation or ejacualation.

Another thing that helps a lot is iodine, but I am not sure how risky it is or how much it helps. It does help… but again, not sure in PFS terms how good it is which is why I say use caution with it. It boosts the thyroid. I have a sneaking suspicion carbs are unable to be digested becuase a lack of stomach acid (maybe?) (i’m going to goto a GI doctor to try to figure out if something is wrong with my digestion, I finalyl have good insurance so I am going to go all out) and the inability to digest carbs is causing a thyroid problem? Not sure.

These are 3 of the most important things I’ve found regarding PFS and my extreme holistic approach. Please share if you have more. Plese try pomegranity/beet juice/no carb if you are in a really bad place, it will help you.

Stay strong brothers.

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#2

water fast helps me to normalize digestion.
before i was not able to digest foods. After few days fasting, my digestion is much better.

#3

Let’s keep this topic going. I’ve been through 6 years of hell. Not knowing what to try to fix first and being too overwhelmed to fix all at once…so basically i got nowhere. I feel i’m making strides now finally though. Basically i’ve been trying to work on sleep apnea, massive gut/digestive issues, low T, low vitamins, low everything.

Well, Just saw an awesome naturopath today. He said I was one of the worst off patience he has. That was comforting. But he said without a doubt…#1 job is to heal your guts. I kind of was beginning to think that anyway the longer I suffer. I already quit gluten and that was awesome help…but not enough. He put me on paleo diet, and 3 hardcore supplements for the 1st month. Which is phase 1. He also said, absolutely you MUST make bone broth and drink a cup of it EVERY SINGLE day. It’s the #1 thing on his list. He had a million reasons why.

I tend to agree with him here. When digestion is gone and inflammation is all that’s left. You are going to be vitamin and energy deficient. You’re going to have all these other things failing when you are a total wreck.

No raw foods…contrary to what everyone on here thinks. If you have the gut issues we do, paleo and cooked…fruits, vegetables and meats. No dairy, no beans, no rice. Basically your life needs to be bone broth and paleo crock pot meals.

We have to heal the guts FIRST or we’ll never get better.

I will come back and post the 3 supplements he gave me…all of which are LOADED with stuff.

This also explains why only the people that have paleo diets and juice fast a shit load recover slightly to all the way…THEY HEALED THEIR GUTS! It also explains how they can now eat corn and other irritants in moderation and be fine now. They have stopped the inflammation and permeability in their guts. Healing all the food allergies caused and allowing normal absorption of nutrition. I’m almost positive CDNUTS recovery has more to do with this than it does taking T pills. I have all the same T enhancers CDNuts did…but there’s no point taking them until you can absorb.

I’m telling you now this is a long road though…but it is the answer I will put money on it. At least, the answer to having a livable life.

#4

Interesting stuff, I’ll be sure to try some of these.

My brain fog is not gone, but I do feel like cutting gluten out really helped it. It also very much helped my exercise. Last summer, when I was still eating gluten, I jogged about 5 days out of the week for almost 3 months. Most of the days I just had this horrible doughy feeling throughout my body. Just feeling really fat, especially my gut. No matter how much I would jog, I would still get winded within 100 yards. This is completely different than how I could run before my pfs crash. Anyway, since cutting out gluten (and then all cereal grains), that nasty, fatty feeling is gone, and I can actually exercise again without feeling disgusting and winded. I’m still not what I was before the crash, but I’m better than I was just back in November. I’m currently on the Paleo diet after 15 days of juicing, and I believe it is helping, but it’s hard to be sure to what extent. At the moment, I don’t know if any of this will lead to being cured, but I do think it makes day to day existence better.

A multi-vitamin from Centrum or an off-brand that mimics Centrum Men’s formula helps me. I’m not sure if it is the Vitamin D or the Iodine or everything, but I feel worse when i stop taking it.

I take a probiotic as well, I think it helps but again not sure.

@Krieg17, how long have you been trying this new regimen? Are you still in Phase 1? And are you noticing any benefits? I feel like I remember someone talking about bone broth or marrow or something before. Look forward to hearing the supplements you’re using and what effects they are having so far.

#5

dude I tried to go down that route… I CANNOT HANDLE BONE BROTH AT ALL. seriously, i cannot handle it. i’ve tried different gut healers, it makes me way worse. i think it speaks volumes to maybe why the gut is in bad shape. i think the gut cannot heal itself because finasteride fucked up some enzyme that proessed gut healers. when i take bone broth… i get spaced the fuck out. when i take glutamine… my right fingers start to swell and literally get bigger (i shit you not)… when i take gelatin… it spaces me out so much i cannot even comprehend reality, it is the scariest feeling ever.

fuck. finasteride. OMG.

and you are right on the juicing and diet… i HAVE TO eat all organic diet and all that or else i would literally go out of my mind. i am incredibly jealous of people that are only dealing with libido issues.

i’m praying the GI doctor i am going to next week can do SOMETHING… or find ANYTHING that doesn’t seem right.

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#6

guys, i recommend you try IOSOL. it is iodine. lugols does not work as well for me. i was completely spaced out and felt disconnected from reality. i dropped all supplements because i didnt know what helped or what didnt. my scalp felt like it was on fire, i had no emotions, i felt discnnected from the world. i just took 2 drops of iosol and holy crap what a world of difference. i feel connected to reality again, my scalp itch went away, i feel way better.

i’m fairly certain finasteride somehow screwed up our thyroid. CHI, who had a 100% recovery, took 2 drops of iosol per day along with a no carb diet. thyroid i know = increases blood flow.

you can buy iosol from iherb.com. i cant not tell you guys this because i was completely out of it before. very, very, VERY scary feeling if you guys have been there bfore.

#7

Oh boy, we are back to the gut bacteria

#8

I have no idea about gut bacteria. I know gut/digestive stuff seems to cause a lot of argument here.

However, if taking steps to affect my digestive system (like diet and maybe taking a probiotic) ease some of the symptoms I’m going through and make every day a bit more live-able, I’m going to do it. The implications of that aren’t really what I’m concerned about. I’ll leave that to smarter people who are working to research this.

I can fully acknowledge that treating digestive symptoms may just be treating symptoms and not at all addressing the root cause.

#9

I just want to say that while I am not of the line of thinking that our syndrome is caused by an issue with gut bacteria, I find that there is an absolute benefit to consuming fermented foods (pre and probiotics). It helps greatly with the mental issues, which for me are quite severe to be honest. I am not talking about pills, I am talking about the real deal. Raw-Organic Honey as a PRE-biotic, and I have been eating saurkraut as my pro-biotic, although I am sure there will be many people who might want to try something else. Still, it becomes quite managable. This is my first meal of the day, and without it, I have a much, much worse day mentally, and although it might not be actually fixing the roots of my PFS nightmare, it helps me to survive the day.

Again, I am not saying our issue is a bacteria problem or whatever the fuck it is, but I strongly, strongly, strongly recommend that everyone suffering this hell at least try this with dedication for at least a month.

#10

I’ve been doing it a week and a half. I was really bad off when I went in. I feel way more manageable a week and a half later. I don’t know if this cures anything…probably not. But, I think we’re all F’d if we can’t heal the gut FIRST is all i’m saying. You have to start somewhere, your guts being wrecked, not able to digest food properly, malabsorption of vitamins and minerals, constant inflammation being battled by your immune system.

You fix that, don’t you think a lot of the other stuff will get better? You can’t not feel better if you’re absorbing vitamins and minerals, not putting irritants and food you’re now allergic to into your body do to our likely Leaky Gut condition will free up the immune system for other stuff too. It can’t not get better for us.

I guess all i’m saying is…what good is all the supplements, t boosters, powder’s drugs everything that else that everyone’s eating in handful’s if you can’t digest anything properly.

I have chosen this has to be #1, it’s the most likely thing to clear up other stuff and make life manageable. Fixing your sleep won’t help your guts. But it definitely could go the other way around. It will absolutely raise all vitamin levels. And perhaps even T to some degree. There’s no telling. It has to help, and in my opinion…nobody on this board has EVER fixed themselves without fixing their guts.

So if you’re having gut issues…I don’t really know shit, but I’m going this route, there’s not enough time in the day to deal with all the issues at the same time, not to mention impossible to change everything about you at the same time. I’m going guts 1st…cause it’s a monumental task by itself, then working on the low T and sleep after that.

Supplements:
Thorne Mediclear-SGS - Powder make shakes - Has EVERYTHING in it, spendy but easier than doing 30 separate supps, look it up.
Thorne GI-Encap - Coats the lower intestines…helps to bring back the gut lining…which is probably permeable or has leaky gut…causing all the food allergies.
Ortho Biotic - 20 Billion CFU
Fish Oil

Diet - 100% Paleo…almost no sugar or carbs…just make crock pot meals, cause they last 3 days, makes it easier, and like bacon and eggs for breakfast. And still do juicer style veg juice.

I feel pretty decent so far, and shiz has solidified and almost looks normal. As of 10 days ago when I’d eat a salad, it would come out looking like a salad…not digested AT ALL. So, pretty excited about that. Gotta take this one issue at a time, and in my opinion…this is the biggest because if you let this go, you’ll be miserable. You fix this and life is at least liveable.

#11

bryce, how is the IOSOL iodine working out for you? Does it still give you a connection to reality consistently? Various things have worked for me but then lost effectiveness over time.

#12

Bryce, hang in there man. I agree with the digestive angle. I used to get the brain fog BAD and almost always right after lunch. My hands and feet would get cold too. I had some decent improvements on turmeric (despite it being a 5AR inhibitor) perhaps the anti-inflammatory properties helped?

Anyway, in the beginning I ate the same stuff almost every day, which was lightly cooked (steamed or sauteed) veggies with garlic (speaking of Nitric Oxide). Green tea was also a big help with brain fog/mood. Beans a no-no for me. Worse than candy, I kid you not.

I went to a naturopath too, he put me on a few supplement shakes and told me to get off sugar, gluten and dairy. I’m at the point where I can have sugar again but beans still mess me up a little.

Yoga was a huge help. I also took a kickboxing class weekly. Hitting stuff was helpful for the frustration and also seemed to bring a little of that post-workout “Yeah!!” feeling that I had lost for so long.

How is your sleep?

#13

faded, does no sugar mean that you cut out fruit completely?

#14

Sorry, I should have clarified that. I ate some fruit. Just no refined/added sugar. It’s possible in the very beginning I did swear off ALL sugar but I don’t think so. Something else I forgot to mention was the naturopath also gave me a big bottle of psyllium husk which is supposed to help your shitting. I didn’t have much of a problem with that but supposedly fiber/good elimination helps eliminate excess estrogen, and certainly toxins.