Another story from London, UK

  1. Where are you from (country)?
    A: The United Kingdom.

  2. How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)
    A: Google searches around PFS, after I found out the name of the syndrome.

  3. What is your current age, height, weight?
    A: 35 years old, 1182cm, 68kg

  4. Do you excercise regularly? If so, what type of excercise?
    A: I go out for a walk every day. I used to walk for miles each day because I lived in a much more pedestrian-friendly city (outside the UK). I have been thinking of getting an exercise bike and really going for it, but I haven’t got around to that yet.

  5. What type of diet do you eat (vegetarian, meat eater, raw, fast-food/organic healthy)?
    A: I have a healthy diet and it has always been pretty healthy. I don’t smoke or drink alcohol.

  6. Why did you take Finasteride (hair loss, BPH, other)?
    A: Hair loss.

  7. For how long did you take Finasteride (weeks/months/years)?
    A: Just five days

  8. How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start Finasteride?
    A: 31. This was on 2 June 2010.

  9. How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit?
    A: 31. I quit on 7 June 2010.

  10. How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?
    A: I quit abruptly after feeling an aching sensation in the prostate region.

  11. What type of Finasteride did you use – Propecia, Proscar, Fincar or other generic?
    A: Propecia.

  12. What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?
    A: I took 1mg per day.

  13. How long into your use of Finasteride did you notice the onset of side effects?
    A: After about three days, I experienced dramatic loss of libido and less (also watery) ejaculate. I became tired very easily. But even so, it was difficult sleeping. So it all happened very quickly.

  14. What side effects did you experience while on the drug that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?

Put an X beside all that apply:

Sexual
[X] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[X] Erectile Dysfunction
[X ] Complete Impotence
[X] Loss of Morning Erections
[X] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[X] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[X] Watery Ejaculate
[X] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[X] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[X] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[X] Confusion
[X] Memory Loss / Forgetfullness
[X] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[X] Slurring of Speech
[X] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[X] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[X] Depression / Melancholy

Physical
[X] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[X] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[X] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[X] Muscle Wastage
[X] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain
[X] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[X] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[X] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[X] Other (please explain): Bear in mind that I felt an aching pain in my prostate, then became impotent. But the pain did not continue after that. Just total numbness.

  1. What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
    A: B12, D3, colloidal silver, alkaline water, C60 olive oil in EVOO, liposomal Vitamin C megadosing, Vitamin E megadosing, liposomal glutathione, Aloe vera juice, Xyrem, zinc supplements, ZMA supplements, dexamethasone, Clomid, testosterone gel, Arimidex, Stano Elite.

  2. If you have pre or post-Finasteride bloodtests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (pls post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?
    A: I have not had a recent blood test. However, the first test showed EXTREMELY low Vitamin D levels in the blood. Close to zero. Also I was turned away by my GP, despite having the testosterone levels of an 85 year old man, because they fell within the officially acceptable parameters.

  3. Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience with Finasteride?
    A: No.

  4. Tell us your story, in your own words, about your Finasteride usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.

The side effects came very quickly. I tried Big Softie’s suggestion (a liqua vade solution) a long time ago and crashed. I followed almost all the advice I could find on this forum and others on the internet. I drank a lot of alkaline water, adopted an even healthier diet (fruit and vegetable based with no meat), moderate levels of exercise, no alcohol. I always attempt to avoid sugar.

I don’t claim to be an expert but after a great deal of experimentation, I can tell fellow sufferers what worked for me:

B12 - improved energy
D3 - improved energy
Colloidal silver - destroyed my lethargy; I got an amazing boost from this
Xyrem - solved sleeping and insomnia issues
C60 olive oil in EVOO - I could feel my immune system becoming stronger, but still didn’t get rid of the remaining side-effects
Stano Elite - gave me a feeling of life, like I had strength in my bloodstream again, but with only slight improvements of sexual symptoms

I no longer have brainfog, but I’m slower than I used to be, and cannot communicate that easily. My main remaining problem is the impotence. It just feels like I have a loose piece of rubber dangling off my body. Total numbness.

My mission here, is to help victims get out to Boston for the new study. Myself and a few others want to club together, to raise cash for flights and hotel stays. Hopefully together we can work to speed things up.

So you look like you were very badly affected mentally. Have you largely recovered in this respect?

Yes, mostly. That PFS feeling where it’s like you are possessed by demons. A recent guest on the podcast described it that way - and that’s exactly how it was for me.

Colloidal silver, B12, D3 and Xyrem, have made me feel close to normal in my system, including mentally. I am not as sharp as I used to be in conversation. Not 100% back to normal and the sexual sides remained. However, I have to admit they had a beneficial effect.

How did you obtain Xyrem? There have been a few people on this site that have gone to sleep studies and still couldn’t get a doctor to prescribe it.

PM me if you want to know more about how I obtained Xyrem.