Hi guys, I am currently experiencing exactly what the PAIS/PAS guys have. I used to go by Tommy6565 15 years ago after I got PFS - you can look that name up for my history. I was hoping to come back with a cure story because I was on HCG 1000 IUs per day last year and working out like a mad man. I felt good enough to call it a full recovery and was continually improving as opposed to the initial feeling great and then falling off. I will make another member story or update the old one if I can get in to that ID but unfortunately I need help now.
I am here because i had an interruption in HCG while I was cured and then I was unable to recreate the initial response. I held on at 700 IUs despite mild E2 symptoms. I fought using the Arimidex for 2 years but finally gave in and tried it at my understanding doctor’s suggestion. Horrible mistake. First 2 weeks were a roller coaster and at week three i had chest pain and a panic attack. I stopped immediately after that but here’s the weird thing. I was on HCG the whole time. 700 IUs daily. I was doing frequently bloodwork and my E2 and total estrogens were high THE WHOLE TIME. Yet somehow I have low E2 symptoms like the other guys.
Since then i have gone through a few crashes despite doing what i thought was the right thing after reading PAIS threads: decreasing the HCG dose. I dropped it to 550 for a month and some things got better like ball and prostate pain, but most got worse and then leveled off. I dropped again to 400 where I am now and realized through bloods that while dropping HCG, my E2 and T are going UP NOT DOWN!? None of this seems possible.
Anyway, here is the real ask and why I posted this before doing a member story. My Dr. says this is not possible, despite believing and seeing PFS before. He wants to believe me but I see he is skeptical. I need guidance from one of the guys here. I am at 400 and having horrible anxiety as my E2 went from 56-78-98 as I dropped the HCG dose down. I do not want to increase E2 again but feel like I am in a catch 22. Would you recommend:
- keeping at 400 so as not to mess further
- dropping completely in the hopes that no LH in the body couldn’t possible increase E2 and T again? (Hopefully?)
- Increase the dose since paradoxically decrease has increased the hormones I wanted to decrease.
Again, sorry for the rush, but I am trying to save myself from another crash. Looking back at my notes and conversations, I was so much better mentally after my first crash at 700 IUs in October than I am now.
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