Is there anyone here that had severe side effects but did not consume alcohol?
Yes, plenty. Alcohol does not influence the effects of this drug while on it, other than helping to damage your liver.
In fact, it’s the other way around – Finasteride has been tested in humans and has been shown to block the subjective effects of alcohol due to blockade of Progesterone --> Allpregnanolone (neurosteroid) synthesis.
Do a search on “alcohol” and also have a read through:
Mew,
Do you mean that is blocks the drunk effect or can block this effect? The reason why I ask is there has been several times when I drink and the alcohol feeling is not the same. Its like I cant get drunk. Its usually hit or miss when I drink.
Yes, that is what I am talking about. Hence why researchers are considering giving it to alcoholics to get them off booze, because they can no longer “feel” alcohol’s effects while taking Fin.
No shit… Yeah the only thing is when you cant get drunk you drink more and more and more. Well not everyone will do that but if you dont know whats causing you not to get drunk you might think you need more. For example. I had a party at my house not to long ago and I was telling everyone I dont know whats wrong with me. Im not trying to be a champ but I can probably chug this bottle of vodka and not get drunk. Everyone was like no way, thats crazy. I didnt end u chugging the bottle of vodka but did tons of shots and no drunk effect. All I felt was a little buzz if any. Like I said before this has happened several times. The next morning was hellllllllllll. My heart was racing so bad, sweating, dehydrated etc. I was throwing up so much from it. I now make sure I dont drink to much even if Im having the no drunk feeling time. Its not good on the liver at all.
Not only does it fuck up your body, but alcohol is absolutely terrible for sexual performance.
“Alcohol causes loss of libido, impotence, and sterility in males. Direct damage to testicular cells and impairment of control centers in the brain may help explain the sexual dysfunction.”
from findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m … i_12490153
Avoid alcohol as much as you can, and if you find yourself in the situation where you drink alcohol, confine yourself to mixed drinks or wine–and for every 1 drink, drink 8 oz of water.
Yeah I know it can mess up libido but it increases mine sometimes.
It may increase your desire by taking away your inhibitions, but damage to the testicular cells, causing impotence… libido doesn’t do much good if your penis can’t function.
Just something to mull over.
Guys, I definately have noticed this affect of not getting as drunk, eversince the Propecia factor. I feel it fading away though.
Im not a drinker , I dont like to drink much, often or even at all, but since Iv noticed this affect for some time now, I drink now sometimes to gauge myself.
So I drank up with the boys over the weekend, to gauge myself, and can say I feel the “blockade of progesterone” as we are calling it above to be going away, but with a hint of it remaining.
So count me in for this one guys.
On a related note, I am wondering if alcohol can exacerbate other symptoms. I went home from college for awhile to deal with my sexual sides and mild gyno, I took some DIM and zinc, and my sides started to improve and my face and body started to lose that puffy look, and I was feeling much better. During this time I did not drink at all except a glass of wine occasionally.
Then this past week I came back up to college to prepare for next semester. Over the weekend I ended up going to hang out at a friend’s house and drinking a lot of beer, way more alcohol in two nights than I’ve had in the past month. I woke up on Sunday feeling terrible, with racing heart rate, and I noticed my gyno looking worse again. Now it’s Tuesday and I feel a lot better, the sides are starting to subside again.
Anyone else have a similar experience? I think I’m going to take it easy on alcohol and marijuana for awhile and let my body stabilize.
i also feel that every time. i drink alcohol i have some side effects back like chest pain or gyno and my libido is not good.
what dosage of DIM supplements do you use i feel i haven’t recovered from gyno and i want to giver DIM a try
I’ve just been using the DIM Plus from Nature’s Way. It’s pretty expensive, especially because I take 8 capsules a day, which is what they recommend for men for intensive use. It does seem to work somewhat though. I have no idea if this is the best DIM supplement, I’d be open to suggestions from anyone who has tried any others successfully. I’ve got to get a refill tomorrow, I’m going to go to a health food store and ask which one they recommend.
Also, the alcohol definitely killed my libido as well. I was with a girl and almost wasn’t able to get it up, which really freaked me out. Fortunately I was able to finally, but I will not be drinking alcohol again when I plan on getting some action. Actually I won’t be imbibing for awhile at all to see how it goes.
I would like to understand how much dose of dim you are using …how many grams or mg?
thanks
italysideeffect…It is hard for me to say exactly how much pure diindolylmethane I am using. The product I’m using, DIM Plus from Nature’s Way is not just pure diindolylmethane.
It contains (per 2 capsule serving): 9 IU Vitamin E, 100 mg BioResponse-DIM complex(an enhanced bioavailability complex with 25% diindolylmethane and some other ingredients that are supposed to help it absorb better), and 100 mg combination of spinach powder, cabbage powder, and concentrated broccoli powder. I take 2 servings of 4 capsules twice daily for the equivalent of 4 servings per day.
Unfortunately, I have no way of knowing exactly how much pure Dim this equates to…maybe someone else can help.
Apparently, the body has a hard time absorbing pure diindolylmethane, hence the need for added ingredients to help it absorb. I have no idea, however, if this particular DIM supplement is the best value for the money, but I get it for about $28, which is a little steep. It does seem to work though, and I am not planning on using it indefinitely, so I think I will keep buying it for now. If anyone knows of a better product I would love some suggestions though.
Define what you mean by this. What changes or improvements have you noted while taking DIM?
By saying it works, I just meant what I said in one of my posts above…after taking it the puffy nipples from gyno, facial puffiness, and fat around the midsection has decreased, almost back to my pre-fin levels. However, I also cannot be 100% positive that this was not the 30 mg of zinc I’ve been taking or just my body recovering slowly but naturally, because all of these symptoms I had were pretty mild compared to what some experience. The improvements did seem to correspond with starting to take DIM though.
However…my sexual sides are still there to an extent…I can at least usually get it up during sex, but I’ve recently been with a girl who likes to go for 3 or 4 sessions in one night, which can be a bit taxing on me. I’m going to try to take some L-Arginine or Horny Goat Weed and see how that does.
Also, would just like to mention that during the past month or so (corresponding with my beginning to take DIM and Zinc) I have also been taking the ADD drug Vyvanse, similar to Adderral, several times a week. Anyone know if this could have an effect on sides, positive or negative?
Why?
It will just introduce extra variables into the equation, and make investigation by any docs even more difficult, since you have now introduced another drug into the situation… which they can use against you in your attempts to claim only Finasteride caused you issues.
Personally I’d steer clear of any other pharmaceuticals at this stage.
You’re right Mew…I definitely should not have taken it, but I was working on a portfolio and the stuff really does help me focus and get work done in way less time. But I am planning to completely stay away from any medications, alcohol, marijuana, or anything besides supplements for awhile to see how my body responds.
I will continue to use the DIM-plus and Zinc, and I’ve started drinking a green vegetable powder drink once a day instead of taking a multivitamin. I’ve been doing all this for about a week now and stopped taking Vyvanse and I feel pretty good. My main problem now is occasional sexual sides, so I’m thinking about throwing in some L-arginine or horny goat weed, but we’ll see. I will post if I have any progress.