hello
who is experiencing weight loss or abdominal fat after 5 yaers or more after quit? i am taking T4 maybe it has an effect. but i am currently gaining weight only to my abdominal area. i am 87kg, 183cm. but i look thin.
is it a PFS appereance or my genetics?
How depressing. This is getting more noticable for me as time goes by. To hear you say that you have it 5 years later is very discouraging. This is a very very cruel and relentless disease. I want a cure now.
a lot of fat on my stomach, big pot belly. Although now I eat a lot less due to appetite loss and nausea. Five years have gone by but sides are still here.
Gluten dude. My guts swole up as well and everyone noticed. Cut gluten and ate low carb paleo style and lift weights with lots of compound movements (bench, squats, deadlift, shoulder press etc)…Lost 20 pounds and am actually fairly ripped at this point. Not that I’m totally fixed…but that solved that problem…as well as the acne breakouts that were happening at the same time. 2 sides down…a million more to go!
Thanks! Will definitely try this.
Here’s the evolution of PFS for me. Skinny and a solid lookin dude on the left…I had still had pfs here, but really had mostly mental sides and itching and twitching and countless other things that weren’t appearance threatening. Middle is about a year, year and a half later. Pretty amazing in how little time the guts became destroyed in every way, eyes caved in due to collagen loss, terrible skin in general. Photo to the right is me now, about 3 years after the middle photo. I still look like hell in the face, skin still bad w/ collagen loss, but was able to get rid of the gut and tone up a lot by a simple diet and exercise routine.
This includes, absolutely no gluten (the main reason the guts swelled, yes it’s more swelling than straight up fat…but there’s some fat gain there too) Cut carbs to very little, lots of lean meats and veggies…maybe some berries for sugar, like blueberries and shit. It took me along time to figure all this out…so do yourself a favor and benefit from someone who suffered for 3-4 years with the same shit and figured it out. I’m pretty sure you guys are having the same problems and can fix that aspect of your life to free up more time to work on the 8 million other things wrong with you!
Just like everything with this fucked up hell…most of the improvements come with being strict as fuck with a lot of stuff. Gluten’s got to go though fellas.
Cheers
Why is this adding as a file? How do you just put a picture there? Never had this problem before?
Thanks for your post. I look exactly like your second picture. Glad you were able to successfully combat this. Will begin the diet immediately. I already eat healthy but still eat carb and gluten. There has to be a cure. I will no rest until we beat this.
scared, i have done some juice fasts too…never too long though. 3-5 days a few times and 12 days once. That didn’t hurt. Also a 4 day water fast. So nothing too big. The key is the gluten if your guts are looking like mine in the middle for no reason. I haven’t touched it in a year along w/ low carb for the last 6-9 months.
Diet similar to carb backloading…
There are some caveats, I lift fairly heavy w/ compound movements (squats, dead lifts, bench, shoulder press, pull ups…etc). I do that around 5 or 6…and I allow myself some carbs only on those days after lifting heavy (hence the carb backloading portion) I’ve found that’s pretty helpful to help u stick to it. You’ll get into a routine and it’s not that hard, especially given you can “earn” some carbs after lifting.
I also do cardio on the days I lift with 4 minute tabata HIIT sessions…kick your butt but doesn’t take long and 2 other days I just started doing 50 yards sprints.
So, I’ve done a lot to get where I’m at…but honestly it FELL off when I cut gluten and started the above diet and training regimine. To this day if I accidentally get “glutened” my guts swell up a little and would really bad if I ever started eating it again. That stuff has to be gone for good if you’re having this problem.
Now if I could just stop drinking, fix my sleep and my bad skin I’d really be getting somewhere. Drinking is the next big key for me to take the next step. That’s been the toughest.
Forgot to mention…when I did drink, I drank vodka not made out of grains on ice with a lime squeezed in it. Not great, but low on the carbs/sugars as well as gluten free. Although I dont recommend drinking at all…that’s what I did when I felt the urge.
Yea I attend AA meetings. Im about to get 2 years sober. It definatley helps. Also I take remeron for sleep. I find my face looks much healthier when I get deep sleep. Still I think I look pretty terrible. I envy other people at the AA meetings who look clean and healthy from not drinking. I havent drank in almost 2 years but still look rough as hell.
Krieg17- nice job combating the “prophecies belly” a lot of us get including myself. My first 1.5 years I was always bloated and swollen; I’ve noticed the last 5 months I’m slimming down a bit and eating better so I’m also combating it nicely. Can actually wear TShirts this summer and my gut doesn’t hang out, that coupled with huge sexual improvements have actually made me feel more pumped than anytime in the last two years
Excellent Finatruth!
Scaredoutofmymind- you will get better too! I honestly believe part of our thought process is involved, we already know there are low levels of dopamine in the brain. Try doing stuff you like, I know it’s hard, but clear out all the negativity. 5000 grams of vitamin C has made a huge difference. I sweat now, I had sustained interest in women, my libido is almost back, I have that manly aggressiveness I lacked for 2 years. Think positively I’m telling you!! That and time are the only constants in people’s recovery. I have no more penis numbness anymore, I have am and random erections etc. take as best care of yourself you have the ability to get better!!
AA huh. That’s depressing to hear you don’t look substantially better from not drinking. As I feel it would help a lot with my looks with the dehydration and all that being gone. How’s your skin? Or what specifically makes you look like hell? Besides the gut? Also, how do you get Remeron…I’ve noticed I looked way better in the mirror in the morning the 2 times in 6 years I felt I slept like a human. And have heard numerous people mention it.
Fina, what specifically has Vit C done for you? I just started taking that, I mean I take a host of other natural supplements, but not Vit C until recently, and my dose is only 1k.
That’s the problem with this shit fellas…just fixing our body’s outside appearance takes more than most people can handle or have time for. Then there’s 8 billion things on top of that need work too. I guess that’s why I can’t fully kick the booze. I feel like I’ve already given up beer, bread, almost all foods other people eat, forced to workout like a demon to not literally turn into a chick. So, it’s very hard to give up EVERYTHING. Booze should probably be #1 thing to give up though. I would literally have to quit my job, move on from my wife, hole up, ignore all friends and focus every second of every day to get all the way there. And I’m already getting divorced and don’t hang out with friends that often and focus most my time on this…it still aint enough. Unfortunately you have to have job/money to afford all the shit you have to do as well.
I’m pretty damn convinced something close to CD Nuts protocol is the only answer at this time, but it’s next to impossible to do all that unless you are rich, don’t have a job and leave everybody you know behind for at least a few years.
Have u tried walking 3 days a week… for an hour straight at ure own pace??? U could do this and maybe lose weight… Also if u eat a ramen noodle… Just one a day in the evening and walk it will fall off
