You’re making unsubstantiated statements which is just scaremongering as far as I’m concerned with no perceivable purpose other than instilling fear to make yourself feel like you’re not the only one fading an ‘existential crisis’. Many people have recovered. Progressively worsening DNA damage and the comparison to radiation exposure is unfounded. It’s rare that people get progressively worse - in general the trend is staying the same or improving.
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I don’t know of anyone who has fully recovered. People seem to improve enough to move on with their lives, while still having some lingering symptoms. If you’re such an expert on biology then please, enlighten me to assuage me of my understandable fear so that I can find some peace and try to move on from this shit.
I won’t be able to assuage you of your fear - nobody will, as our understanding of the condition is still in its infancy. But to worry incessantly about every possible permutation is a fruitless exercise.
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There are many full recovery stories.
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I don’t think any kind of science or evidence can convince people who fear for the worst. A perfect example of that is public perception of vaccinations. No matter how much science you throw at them, there’s always a group of people who disagree with it solely on irrational doubt. Personally, I don’t think DNA is either an accurate or inaccurate idea, we simply don’t have enough work done to be positive on what the condition is.
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DNA is like your source code. But it can still be repaired if the damage is not big enough. Shorting of DNA is a normal process in aging.
But I really doubt PFS is DNA damage for most guys. A lot of people get very bad symptoms from very few pills. It’s very unlikely the DNA get damaged so badly you develop PFS in such a short time span.
My honest opinion is it’s some sort of negative feedback loop ……where the body thinks the new normal or “baseline “ is poor erections , poor sleep , poor anxiety/depression , poor Anhedonia , and it doesn’t try to rectify these things as it thinks this is the new baseline .
That to me seems more feasible, as scary as the dna damage does sound .
There are after all many people on here who get ‘better ‘ over time ( I’m not saying ‘cured’ just better !) who then leave and can go on to lead fairly normal lives . Paul Innes is one I can think of , he was really bad and went on national UK tv at one stage . I hear he has done better over the years , now runs marathons etc
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Paul Inness recovered via TRT, he displayed low T symptoms which is no doubt a form of PFS. He was one of the lucky ones who responded to hormone therapy.
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@Wings lowered levels of certain neurosteroids and the hormonal imbalance are causing chaos in your thinking. I have this most if not all of the time. It makes for catastrophic thoughts. I try to take a step back from these behaviours especially when articulating myself as I’ve discovered over the years it has gotten me nowhere and has only served to upset me even further. I try to reposition myself/ the thoughts to who I was prior to this and think how I would see things and respond… I then push that forward using the old me no matter how hard. It’s one of the many coping strategies I’ve developed. Being into your fourth year doesn’t put you past the point of improvements. There are guys who took longer. Never give up hope you have to find strength to believe. .
Man, have faith in you body.
Our bodies are the results of millions of years of evolution. A smart machine who made its way throught war, pandemics, and difficulties of any kind.
We are the dumbasses who watch Netflix and take Finasteride.
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Wasn’t the rumor of what they found “dna fragmentation” or was that what they did find in those women? Thid garbage has went on for so long I can’t even remember anymore 
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The fact that many (not all) experience a recovery and then a crash In my opinion does not signal dna damage. It means everything was working again and then boom
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There it is…Dna damage, damage to genes altering gene expression etc…
This is so inaccurate. Please provide solid evidence that anyone has truelly recovered?and don’t share the recovery thread. If you or anyone feels those post are believable than I challenge them to replicate those recoveries and then tell me how you really feel.People are simply managing their symptoms like someone who has a chronic illness, which we have, treats it. You read a convincing post that someone recovered and then weeks , months they’re back here trying the next thing. This is my opinion so I’m biased but it’s what I’ve gathered over the last 10 or 11 years of being sick.
The good thing about what I’m saying is that for some people and for most have found ways to treat or manage the symptoms to feel better. That’s huge and people should understand that searching for that is more realistic than finding a cure today.
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If you or anyone feels those post about Finasteride side effect are believable, than I challenge them to take Finasteride themselves and tell me how they really feel.
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11 years and you haven’t realized yet that the same compounds does wonders for a person and crashes another?
I’ll never understand this attitude. I mean, for real. How can you “produce evidence” that someone really recovered, if you can’t produce evidence of anyone being sick with PFS in the first place?
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That’s what treating or managing is, find what works for you. Unluckily you might get worse before you find what makes you better.
It sounds like we’re on the same page.
If you want proof of healing produce proof of disease.
Can’t prove to be cured from a disease you can’t diagnose, if not anecdotally.
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