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#1

  1. Where are you from (country)? USA Phoenix, Arizona

  2. How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?) google

  3. What is your current age, height, weight? 24 6’2 180lb

  4. Do you excercise regularly? If so, what type of excercise? Weight lifting hiit per cdnuts

  5. What type of diet do you eat (vegetarian, meat eater, raw, fast-food/organic healthy)? Now eaTing meats fruits and vegetables

  6. Why did you take Finasteride (hair loss, BPH, other)? Hair loss

  7. For how long did you take Finasteride (weeks/months/years)? 40 days

  8. How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start Finasteride? 24

  9. How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit? 24

  10. How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)? immediately

  11. What type of Finasteride did you use – Propecia, Proscar, Fincar or other generic? Propecia

  12. What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)? 1mg

  13. How long into your use of Finasteride did you notice the onset of side effects? 40 days

  14. What side effects did you experience while on the drug that have yet to resolve since discontinuation? weak orgasm like don’t feel nearly as good and harder to maintain erections but not to hard

Put an X beside all that apply:

Sexual
[ ] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[ x] Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[ ] Loss of Morning Erections
[ x] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[ ] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[ x] Watery Ejaculate
[ ] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[ ] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[ ] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ ] Confusion
[ ] Memory Loss / Forgetfullness
[ ] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[ ] Slurring of Speech
[ x] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[ ] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[ x] Severe Depression / Melancholy
[ ] Suicidal Thoughts

Physical
[ ] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ ] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[ ] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[ ] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[ ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ ] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[ ] Other (please explain)

  1. What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
    Cut fast food and gluten per cdnuts protocol

  2. If you have pre or post-Finasteride bloodtests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (pls post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?

  3. Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience with Finasteride?

  4. Tell us your story, in your own words, about your Finasteride usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.

Basically orgasms don’t feel pleasurable as they use to… not sure if thIs is cuz testosterone lowered or what. … havnt went to the doctor yet. … thanks guys any tips would be great

#2

Cutting gluten is a good idea. You may also want to consider eating a lot of meat and eggs. The saturated fat and cholesterol can really kick off the androgen cycle and help get your libido back.

#3

Living with PFS

Step 1: Prerequisite

Accept the condition take on the impossible by being happy with it. Learn about overcoming adversity. Learn to be happy without sex. Become such a awesome person a girl will love you regardless because you never gave up on life. (My goal)

Step 2: Do a protocol

*CDnuts protocol (Consistently overtime may take some years)
*Justquits protocol
*Your own protocol
*Another protocol you may find on here

Nobody can say these protocols won’t work unless they do them exactly as laid out. Can’t trust people on the forum. Have to do it your self. Think for yourself.

Wait for the studies and do nothing. (Cowardly act) Regardless I will continue to learn to be happy just the way I am in the mean time because I have no choice. Everyday I’m depressed. Im a 25 year old virgin. Never had a girlfriend since 6th grade. I’m going out to the bars tonight not because to get laid because that’s not an option anymore. I don’t drink alcohol either. Sounds crazy but its true. Will I ever find a girl that will love me with impotence. YES… I have faith… I don’t see it but I believe it.

I will not give up on life. I will be an inspiration to millions one day. I forgive Merck. But I will do what I can do get this drug off the market someday. I pray for all the victims and other victims in this world including sex slaves, people paralysed from the neck down, starving children etc.

Do I know if CDnuts protocol will work? No I don’t know but I’ll eventually do it when I can. Hopefully JDQs works also… hopefully the studies find a cure but we have to be happy regardless somehow first cuz time is ticking. Must enjoy our lives. .

I eventually want to do a bunch of extended waterfast as well as paleo diet. For now I’m learning about adversity and lifting weights (deadlifts lunges bench press etc) Im severely depressed but I will find happiness regardless of this fucked up syndrome. Im not a quitter. I’ll die a painful death before I commit suicide. PFS will NOT take my life away.
I WILL WIN.

#4

Good for you Justin777! That’s the spirit!

I’m here if you need someone to talk with. Our problems seem similar.

#5

This video I’ve been watching almost daily really helps motivate me for a happy life with this.

Watch “Motivational Video - Overcoming Adversity” on YouTube
Motivational Video - Overcoming Adversity: youtu.be/1kGmjb9Qhzg

#6

good post, think that everyone here should see that video. so many stressed and depressed people on this forum, not giving their body any chance to recover. Mind is much stronger then people think it is.

#7

Sounds like your not that bad off. Count yourself very lucky. You get blood work done yet? Could just be low t.

Also what do you think all the diet and fasting will do? Are you way over weight?

#8

Yeah I just got my blood drawn yesterday morning. Most of the stuff that I’m getting tested for are the short list what this site recommends. My regular doctor said he’ll contact me in a week. He thinks its low T.

I also don’t get morning wood no more 4 months since I quit. Erections hard to get and maintain. I weigh a normal weight 180lbs. 6’2 inches.

As far as the fasting from researching it says its a natural healer. My theory is if I do enough of them I’ll heal a tiny bit more and more. Also from reading online that when you eat perfect and exercise you heal faster from sicknesses.
Do I believe 100% that cdnuts is real his story Etc. Sadly but I’m being completely honest…No… but am I 100% sure its fake??? No… So theres a possibility. … right?

I currently don’t eat perfect its like S.A.D. plus HEALTHY diet… 50% healthy 50% shit… all I do right now is weight lift 3 days a week.

Breaking news I may have found a way to be happy again! Hoping it’ll work for me believe it will if I learn to enjoy it again! It’s been about 13 years since I quit video games. … puberty hit maybe that’s why… anyhow sex is out of the equation right so I think who finds enjoyment in life without sex and I discovered it guys! NERDS… guy at my work played world of war craft for 12 hours the other day… I’m gonna see if he can give me a tutorial this week… If all goes well I’ll create surround sound with my 60" TV and become a full blown NERD

#9

A woman with impotence… I wish I could meet her we have so much in common… I wish her the very best… very inspiring story… just found this… touched my soul…

buzzfeed.com/laraparker/lear … x?s=mobile

#10

This PFS is better then being paralysed from the neck down I tell myself. This is challenging game I tell you. … keyword GAME… all life is let’s play the cards we have now… DO WE HAVE WHAT IT TAKES. … Takes courage strength resilance positive attitude perseverance dedication action leadership integrity knowledge faith love hope

Finding happiness with this is the challenge! Get healed along the way with extreme health living! The only hope next to the studies or experiments

Peace

#11

Another girl with woman’s impotence Vulvudynia. … just found it on youtube… she’s hot too… even with her “Uncureable” disease she is choosing the health living approach and she “believes” she’ll be healed in time just like cdnuts chi and who knows who else… only hope for any “uncureable” disease

Watch “Interstitial cystitis and vulvodynia CAN be cured” on YouTube
Interstitial cystitis and vulvodynia CAN be cured: youtu.be/2rGSz4tpz7Y

#12

This has nothing to do with Finasteride other than trying to draw parallels regarding “hope”. Other than that – different gender, different issue.

#13

These kind of post make me feel better knowing that even girls have issues that relate to us. We are not alone. If sometHing makes me feel better it may most likely make others feel better so I feel I should post it.

#14

My Bloodwork

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9983&p=92614#p92614

#15

The Foundation of my Recovery Path

I will no doubt modify this as I learn more. Alot based on Cdnuts Protocol. (Cdnuts a Hero of Mine) Everything on this list is great for Hormones.

Healthy Diet all Organic-(Pesticides/ Chemicals raise estrogen) Chicken Beef Fish Fruit Vegatables Nuts Seeds No Gluten. No Dairy… Only carbs I’ll eat is Potatoes, Beans, Fruits… Not rice as I just found out it slows down DHT-Testoterone Conversion… Still deciding about beans.

I’ll eat my carbs after my workout. Also called Carb Backloading… This way carbs turn into muscle instead of fat. Eat away all the fat and reduce the estrogen at the same time. Estrogen lives in fat I’ve read. (Also Boost testosterone)

Drink only water and a minimum of 64 Ounces per day (Hydration helps hormones)

Lift weights 3 Days a week. Big muscle groups. Deadlifts- Bench Press- Squats- Lunges Etc. (Raises baseline testosterone in time according to studies)

HIIT Sprints 2 Days a week (Boost Testosterone)

Mindfulness Meditation 2 Hours Per day I started this December 20th… I no longer think about suicide since I’ve been doing this. Tomorrow will be a month into learning this and practicing it… After I do this I literally feel high… My hair doesn’t even fall out as fast as it was prior to this… Greatest tool for PFS I’ve learned so far. Very thankful for this tool. I’m not a Buddhist or anything but these Neuroscientist did brain scans on this guy named Matthieu Ricard a French Buddhist and his brain showed more activity on his left prefrontal cortex side associated with Postitive Emotions through the roof declaring him the “Happiest man in the world”… Meditation is scientifically proven to alter your brain. Enough said I began meditating after this. Love meditating now. No side effects like Xanax (Sorry this one means a lot for me… Changing my life)

Testosterone Boosters… Studies show that when taking these over a period of time they’ve raise testosterone in people… These actually work.

Vitamin D- Fish Oil- B Complex- Multi Minerals- DIM’s- Zinc- Multi Vitamins- Magnesium Complex- Calcium D-Glucarate-
Beta Pepsin

Basically Everything I’m doing I’ve learned through this guys blog. Anabolicmen.com he doesn’t sell anything on there. Its pure education.

A Few thoughts regarding recovery. I know anything is possible. I know there is a lot of people in the world who don’t believe you can cure disease whether its PFS, Aids, Parkinsons Disease, or Cancer etc. with Natural Health Remedies. I also know that there is a lot of people in this world who DO believe you can cure disease with Natural Health Remedies. I’m the latter.

There’s clearly been Recoveries here which gives me a lot of hope. The PFS Studies also give me hope. Anything Positive. I’ve read a comment on here saying that “You can’t reverse a complicated thing like PFS simply by getting in shape”… Well for hundreds of years they said “Brain Damage is Permanent” up until the last 10 years they’ve discovered “Brain Damage is Reversible”… Google Daniel Amen… Basically through Diet Exercise Etc “Over time usually some years” the brain rebuilds itself… How hopeful is that… Very Uplifting for me

So for me personally I have one life. I will fight for it. I’m a winner. I will do this overtime. I’ll learn to love this protocol. I’ll learn to be happy with this disease. I will do the right thing in my eyes. Avoiding my favorite Italian Foods. My heart says to do this. So I’m going to listen to it. I will fight this disease to the death. If you have a different point of view its all good. I understand.

I believe as long as a cute girl knows I’m doing my best to heal my self because I have a messed up wiener. She will accept me. But I have to accept my self first. I’ll accept my self as soon as I do this recovery path consistently. Any day now. This is the year my Recovery Journey Begins! Thanks and have a Great Day…

No surrender… Seriously

#16

Feeling 90% as of this month. Very happy. Cant Complain. I can Now maintain a BONER!

Only things I need improvement on are orgasm feeling improvement and the time it takes to ejaculate. I can ejaculate in 5 minutes now.

However when I eat bread or sweets like cake I’ll go to test my self and it will go back to ED. Very strange. But as long as I stick to my plan based on CDNuts I’ll be in a state of 90% recovered… All I can say is I am damn happy where I’m at even if I only stay this far improved however I believe I’ll improve all the way in time. Still experimenting with foods to see what I can get away with. I never waterfasted or did hormones as Cdnuts has.

What I’ve been doing since February 1st.

Doing Sprints twice a week Eight 80 Yard Sprints each Day

Lift weights twice a week 30-40 minute weight lifting sessions. Bench Leg Press Wide Pull ups Dips… Big muscle groups

Eat about 2400 Calories a Day… I need to eat a little more to build…

I’m 6’2… 175lbs… 25 Years Old… Was weighing 185… when I started…

I Meditate and hour a day… Mindful Meditation. Where you focus on your breath and not thoughts… look into it… Depression reduced 80% because of this alone no bull shit and no drugs… 20 Minutes in the morning 20 Minutes after I workout and 20 Minutes before bed…

I only ate walnuts and pecans before 2:30 pm then I would work out till 3:15 then I would eat all my other food after 3:15pm… Carb back loading…

Drink a Gallon of water a day. Drink 32ounces upon wake up Faucet filters not Bottled… then don’t eat nuts till 2 hours after I drank the water. Then Drink the rest throughout the day.

I did all the Vitimins and T-Boosters Cdnuts recommends

Within a month on this I could Sustain a boner… All the stuff I listed. I don’t know if just the diet would cause this success or even not meditating… But if you do it all You’ll probly be where I’m at. I’m only posting here to help. “Propeciahelp” is the name of this group.

All Organic… “USDA”

Kale-Spinach-Beans-Eggs-Avocados-Quinoa-Steak-Salmon-Chicken-Bananas-Stawberries-Blueberries-Walnuts-Pecans-Russet Potatoes- Oats-Cayenne Pepper- Tumeric- Cinnamon- Black Pepper- Garlic Powder

Only Foods I ate. I made a smoothie out of the Kale Spinach 1 Banana 3 Strawberries 20 Blue Berries EVERYDAY since February… 2 Blenders full of Spinach and 2 of Kale.

Very happy even if I never heal 100%… Can’t complain. Thank God. That’s all I did. If you skip something that’s a risk you’ll take. But if you do all of it… HUGE CHANCE YOU’LL BE JUST LIKE ME! Thanks to Cdnuts! I feel so blessed. Never give up guys… I’ll most likely to a PFS Podcast in the feature. Only had about 5 Cheat Days Since February 1st.

Been of this site for about 3 Months… Get on the plan and get off the site… Wish you guys well…I only had sexual sides but I would of did the same thing if I had mental also… If there’s anything else I forgot I’ll post another post.

#17

Great going bro, I ll try following the stuff you mentioned… And hopefully even I ll post my success some day

#18

I’ve been doing better and I would say that the biggest thing in your recovery would be the testo-boosters. Which one are you using?
They work in waves that’s when you feel a lot better and then you get a little bit down but never worse like before starting.

About orgasm this is related to your dopamine and herbs like tribulus will make it better. You can see guys here saying their emotions got back to normal and now they can’t stop listening to music (Elb said that) that’s because our dopamine is working again then not only music but also TV shows, hang out with friends, everything gets better because now you will be able to enjoy things even smile more.

One thing is necessary is to cycle the herbs and use high dosages of a high quality supplement (like Apr1989 said).

I’m not sure if diet would influence the herbal effect if so I would suggest to get the best diet according to this effectiveness.

My friend is doing just diet, tribulus and tongkat, he is getting more morning wood, more horny, no tired, smiling more, better body composition etc. He said that he thinks after two cycles he would be cured.

Keep goin on the cycles they are the key to the cure as you can read on my signature all these guys got cured by doing it.

Also try to give the details about your recovery process.

#19

Also I get a ton of Sun… I’m also as tan as my skin can get right now. I live in Arizona where its sunny all the time and I get about 80 minutes of sun per week. When researching foods that are good for Testosterone etc. I discovered the site anabolicmen.com… Anyhow everything that Cdnuts says to do is on that site and how it helps… Really drilled in the education behind what Cdnuts advises… The guy who made that site made post about this herb called “Ashwagandha”… Its a T-booster… Basically what “T-boosters” are, are superfoods… Like eggs… super healthy…

Anything that is super healthy by nature will naturally raise your Testosterone and lower estrogen… T-boosters are just super healthy foods like Kale or Spinach or Blueberries etc.

Anyways he posted a blog about “Ashwagandha” and theres a link of a study where these people took that herb and didn’t even cycle it and their Testosterone increased… There for that particular T-booster I take it everyday since February. The other T-boosters I take are from that site Cdnuts advises… Tongkat, Rhiodea Rose, Tribulus, Catuaba, Horny Goat, and Macuna Pruriens.

I started lifting weights September of 2014 last year did that for 5 months with the T-boosters… Nothing happened… I messed up my Toe during sprints and couldn’t sprint for months… But I was eating what ever… The T-boosters and the working out didn’t do anything. But then January my Toe healed so I could start sprinting again. Then I decided I’ll commit to Cdnuts protocol and at least try… Within a month I could Sustain a boner. The I really noticed it when I added the smoothies to my diet… But I notice when I have cheat days I get ED again… Example… 2 weeks ago I ate 4 Doughnuts in a day and later on in the night I tested my self and it wasn’t even hard when I tested myself…

Diet I crucial… When ever I get ED or something by adding more foods I cancel the new foods and go right back to the foods I listed then wait for the ED to clear up. So now I’m gonna start adding 1 food per every week or 2 and Test my self and see if I remain ED Free… Last week I ate Peanut Butter and Raw Cacao in my smoothie and I got ED again…

So I don’t know if it was the Peanut butter or the Raw Cacao… So I just canceled those foods and am back to the Foundation foods I listed. My ED is currently gone again. I’m going to Eat my foundational foods for a few days then I’m going to add Organic Natural Peanut Butter (Ingredients Peanuts and salt) the kind you have to stir… Then see how I go from there… Hoping I’ll be able to handle the Peanut Butter as I love it but don’t know if my body can handle it right now. We’ll see…

This happened 2 months ago… I added Organic Minced Garlic, Red Bell Peppers, Green Bell Peppers and Onions to my Eggs and potatoes cooked in Olive oil… But just from adding those healthy foods I got ED again… What the hell! Weird as hell… So then I went back to the Foundational Foods and within about 3 days the ED went away. Could maintain a boner again… Don’t know if it was the Minced Garlic, the peppers or the onions… When I ate the Peanut Butter and Cacao I was also eating Cashews and Almonds… So I’m gonna do one food at a Time now figure out which ones cause me ED and which ones don’t…

Also I notice my Spit is more watery since PFS and also I have Minor Muscle Twitches… Slight Tinnitus in my left ear also… My Twitches feel like they’ve reduced though as of yesterday. Before Starting this recovery path I didn’t have these Muscle Twitches though… I definitely notice the recovery waves that Cdnuts mentions though…

Will keep you guys posted

#20

You mentioned “oats” in your list of foods that you are eating. Including oats, which are grains, is not supposed to be eaten in a paleo diet. Oats have a lot of carbs. At what time of the day do you eat oats? Even though oats are healthy it may be conflicting with cdnuts approach of eating raw foods only. I am currently eating oats with apples in the morning as a breakfast as it gives you a lot of energy for the day.