24 Year Old, PAS, PFS

Who here has experimented with the CD Nuts protocol? Do you recommend it?

Sorry man but no sensible user on here will recommend you undertake the CD Nuts protocol.

It’s unwise to subject yourself to such an extreme regimen that has no proven results and, if anything, is more likely to harm many patients than it is to treat them. It’s nothing more than pseudoscience.

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Got it, just looking into it.

Do you have any other recommendations? I’m desperate at this point.

Unfortunately there’s nothing specifically I can recommend as a viable method of treatment because as of now nothing of the like is proven to exist - such is the brutality of this disease.

The only thing I can suggest, and you’ve probably heard it a million times, is to go easy and look after your body with a good diet, adequate rest and exercise (if you can). Natural alleviation of symptom severity is possible with time. When I look back to my initial crash three years ago I’m convinced I’d be in a far better position than I am now had I not experimented with extreme diets, protocols and supplements etc.

I know this doesn’t sound particularly enthusing and we’d all move heaven and earth for a supplement or a protocol that could get us out of this mess but for now such a quick fix simply doesn’t exist. We’re extremely optimistic that the community’s efforts can change this moving forward but in the meantime you’ll risk making things worse with elaborate self experimentation.

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I really am not in a position to continue things as normal. I do not have the will to do that and do not see the point of these forums if that’s the case.

I don’t know if you’ve seen it, but I feel I must refer you to this post by Sugarhouse: Sad that I'm never going to get better

I understand how difficult it is to keep moving forward in the face of this disease, it feels like there’s no light at the end of the tunnel even at the best of times.

You’re in hell now, I know, but you might not always be.

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I think at this point that’s nothing more than an incentive to let go of the end of my rope. It’s a shame I wasted my time the past few years trying to solve problems. Should’ve just called it quits around 2016.

I understand how difficult this is but I can only urge you to fight as much as you can.

I don’t understand what you mean by fight if you basically just said “everything is futile”.

That’s not what I said at all. I said attempts at a quick fix are futile, but attempts to initiate research and hopefully find a treatment/cure in the comings years most certainly are not.

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Ok that’s fairer. Do you know of anything that can serve not necessarily as a fix, but rather a crutch?

Also, I am looking to pick up lifting again. It seemed to help in some ways, but also left me feeling inflamed (especially with headaches).

Outside of sleep, diet, exercise and time I’m afraid not man. It must be emphasised though that if you give it time and look after yourself your symptoms can improve to a tolerable level, plenty of members can testify to that.

Exercise is a great tool if you can tolerate it. If you’re suffering adverse reactions after lifting maybe just tone down the intensity and closely monitor your body’s reaction.

Hi, i want to ask that how did you manage “liver flushes”. I believe majority of my problems’ cause is my liver and guts health. I feel tired and my brain fog gets far worse after i eat anything. I feel way better if i not eat anything more than 5,6 hours. And you claim that in some certain time periods you regain some amount of your libido and energy, i believe than can be due to your diet or something else? Please explain me how do you do that flush protocol.

I tend to follow the protocol seen here with some changes.

1- It’s more important to simply not overeat and then eat lightly the day or two before hand

2- Epsom salt’s are not worth using (and unneeded)

3- You can use any kind of oil, not just olive oil.

If lifting gives you side effects then I can’t personally give you any advice

But you said there’s no reason to invest/make money etc

Why not? Having a vision on building a career and making money will give you some sort of fulfillment if you go after it

And needless to say we need all the financial resources we can get to fuel studies and get over this nightmare ASAP

I can lift, just in moderation and not in the middle of the summer.

Also I want to make it very clear that if anyone here is pushing people not to look for solutions, I refuse to listen to you and will attempt to delete/block you if you repeatedly harass

Also some good news: within about 24 hours of beginning a fast, I have found that I feel 70-80% normal which is good enough for me. The issue definitely seems to be gut related, and everything I have done with great success seems to relate to the gut.

Looking into lactobacillus-free probiotics

Some weird but positive news. Pro-biotics and food with probiotics seems to help. However, taking too much can also be harmful.

Furthermore, I just got over a covid breakthrough case and ironically felt somewhat better at times. Lastly, my symptoms seem to be seasonal. I feel much better in the Winter and much worse in the summer. It’s really about trying to find some way to ride out the summers.

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Some bad news.

Yesterday I had a bit of pain, and after a hospital visit, turns out I have a kidney stone. Also the test results detected blood, ketones, Urobilinogen, and HPF (large numbers of bacteria).