23 YR. Old Needs HELP

Hello,

My name is Jesse. I am a 23 year old male from Bergen County NJ. When I was 19 years old I began taking 2.5 mg/day of finasteride. (advised to do so by a hair transplant doctor in the area) He said I should try the finasteride first before I should begin getting the transplants. I did so, and I did see a very big improvement in my hair. This came with the sacrifice of many other things though. I took finasteride for about 18 months. After realizing that I was not feeling right, and after doing a little bit of research on forums such as this one, I realized that this drug had done more harm than good. It has been over 2 years since ive discontinued the drug and my body still doesn’t feel right. Up until I took finasteride I was in EXTREMELY good shape. Very good diet, a ton of exercise, 8% Body Fat, etc… Ill go through a list of what I can tell you I feel has happened since I took this drug.

-Major short term (and even long term) memory loss.
-Anxiety
-Depression
-Almost no sex drive (I need manual stimulation to even obtain an erection, It’s like there is no connection between my brain and my penis anymore. This is probably the most upsetting thing for me) :frowning:
-EXTREMELY indecisive
-Can no longer build or retain any muscle tissue
-Lack of endurance
-Change in body composition (very soft feeling) even when I work out.
-Major decrease in strength

And the list goes on. I have much more that is just not coming to mind at the moment. (probably because of this damn drug) LoL. But I am just looking for some advice/help to get me started. I have tried to do everything right with my diet and exercise and I still have had no luck. Ive been to my endo and we have gotten all of my levels to “normal” so now she is out of ideas as well. CAN ANYBODY HELP ME !?!?!?!?

Welcome to the forum.

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) Where are you from (country)?

USA

  1. How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)

GOOGLE

  1. What is your current age, height, weight?

23, 6’4", 225

  1. Do you excercise regularly? If so, what type of excercise?

YES. CARDIO AND LIGHT WEIGHTS (BECAUSE I CAN’T GO HEAVY)

  1. What type of diet do you eat (vegetarian, meat eater, raw, fast-food/organic healthy)?

MOSTLY ORGANIC HEALTHY, NOT ALWAYS PERFECT BUT AS BEST I CAN.

  1. Why did you take Finasteride (hair loss, BPH, other)?

HAIR LOSS

  1. For how long did you take Finasteride (weeks/months/years)?

APPROX 2 YEARS

  1. How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start Finasteride?

ABOUT 19 YEARS OLD. I BELIEVE JANUARY OF 2007.

  1. How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit?

I AM NOT 100% SURE. IT WAS NO LONGER THAN 2 YEARS THAT I TOOK THIS DRUG.

  1. How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?

COLD TURKEY

  1. What type of Finasteride did you use – Propecia, Proscar, Fincar or other generic?

GENERIC

  1. What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?

2.5 MG/DAY

  1. How long into your use of Finasteride did you notice the onset of side effects?

IT TOOK A LONG TIME. I DIDNT KNOW WHAT IT WAS TILL I BEGAN RESEARCHING. AS SOON AS I BEGAN ABOUT THE DANGERS OF THE DRUG I DROPPED IT RIGHT AWAY. ID RATHER FEEL GOOD THAN HAVE HAIR.

  1. What side effects did you experience while on the drug that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?

LACK OF MOTIVATION, EXTREME FATIGUE, COMPLETE LOSS OF LIBIDO, INABILITY TO BUILD OR RETAIN MUSCLE TISSUE, A MORE “SOFTER LOOK” TO MY BODY, SHORT TERM MEMORY PROBLEMS, BRAIN FOG, ETC THE LIST GOES ON !!

Put an X beside all that apply:

Sexual
[X ] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[ X] Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[ X] Loss of Morning Erections
[ X] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[ X] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[ X] Watery Ejaculate
[ X] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[ X] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[ X] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ X] Confusion
[ X] Memory Loss / Forgetfullness
[ X] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[ X] Slurring of Speech
[ X] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[ X] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[ X] Depression / Melancholy

Physical
[ X] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ X] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[ X] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ X] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ X] Muscle Wastage
[ X] Muscle Weakness
[ X] Joint Pain
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[X ] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ X] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ X] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ X] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ X] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[ ] Other (please explain)

  1. What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?

BEEN TO THE ENDO ABOUT 15 TIMES, TONS OF BLOODWORK, CLOMID THERAPY, SHE SAYS EVERYTHING IS FINE.

  1. If you have pre or post-Finasteride bloodtests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (pls post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?

I DO NOT HAVE MY BLOODWORK AT THIS TIME, I NEED TO GET COPIES FROM MY DOCTOR.

  1. Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience with Finasteride?

I REALLY HOPE THERE IS A CURE BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO FEEL LIKE MYSELF AGAIN. IT IS SO DEPRESSING LIVING LIFE THIS WAY.

  1. Tell us your story, in your own words, about your Finasteride usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.

I USED TO HAVE SUCH MOTIVATION FOR LIFE. I FELT ALIVE EVERY DAY. NOW I STRUGGLE THROUGH EVERY DAY WITH SO MANY MOTIVATIONAL ISSUES AND PHYSICAL AILMENTS. i AM 23 YEARS OLD AND I NEED TO USE CIALIS IN ORDER TO GET ANY TYPE OF DESIRE FOR SEX. MY BODY FEELS WEAK, MY LOWER BACK IS ALWAYS KILLING ME, I CAN NOT BUILD OR RETAIN ANY MUSCLE EVEN WITH A CLEAN DIET, I AM ALWAYS ANXIOUS AND NERVOUS, I HAVE BECOME VERY ANTI-SOCIAL, I HAVE VERY LITTLE CONFIDENCE IN MYSELF, ETC ETC. I FEEL THAT THIS DRUG HAS SCREWED UP MY LIFE VERY VERY BADLY. I WANT TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION SO THAT THIS DRUG CAN NO LONGER RUIN PEOPLES LIVES.

JMC,

welcome. You should probably consider seeing a new doctor. Simply arbitrarily picking an endocrinoligist to help you, most likely won’t get you anywhere. I know because I went this route and wasted my time and money. I saw 4 endo doctors over the course of a year, before I realized you need to seek out the best.

Dr Alan Jacobs is doctor located in NY that has writen a couple of articles about the damage that propecia can cause. He is pretty close to you and obviously has experience helping men with sides from propecia.

neuroendocrinology.org/