20 Year old took saw palmetto

Hi everyone I would really appreciate some advice,

I’m a 20 year old male that applied saw palmetto extract topically because it was an ingredient in a topical similar to Rogaine called Foligain and I also was prescribed some 2% ketoconazole. I stopped the ketoconazole for 6 months now and the saw palmetto extract topical for a year and a half. Now, I’ve been having terrible symptoms over the past 2 years or so. The thing is I can’t tell if my symptoms are stemming from excessive porn and masturbation or if maybe it came from the topical saw palmetto.

My symptoms include low libido (my erections are still pretty strong), brain fog, depression, social anxiety and awkwardness, a weird pressure in my face (related to the social anxiety), dull and lifeless eyes, twitching under right eyelid, etc.

As for my porn and masturbation habits, I was pretty much addicted to edging. For hours at a time. I would watch porn while keeping myself at the edge of orgasm for 3-4 hours at a time once or twice a week for about 2 years. My life got progressively worse at this time. Before this like when I was 15 or 16 I had almost nothing wrong in my life I was perfectly fine. My theory is that this relates to PFS because of the over expression of androgens on my androgen receptors. I think I made my body produce way too many androgens that eventually just was too much and so now my androgen receptors are having trouble processing everything.

I don’t know if these symptoms stem from the Saw Palmetto topical or from the excessive porn and edging because I stopped the edging and saw palmetto at the same time. I have only edged a few times in the past year. Maybe 5 or 6 times and not more than 30 minutes.

My life is just not the same as it once was, I feel like a zombie, I just want my old self back. I’ve started taking pumpkin seed oil capsules and can actually feel a difference with them. My eyes are not dull and they are shiny like they used to be and my mood has slightly improved when I take them. I don’t know why and only took them because I thought they would help my hair but it helped some other symptoms as well.

Anyways, I got my labs drawn about 6 months ago for hair loss and they did an ACTH test and would really appreciate it if someone could maybe find anything that could be causing my problems?

TESTOSTERONE FEMALE AND PEDS, LCMS: 5.76 ng/mL (2.50-10.00 ng/mL)
ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1.2 ng/mL (0.4-1.5 ng/mL)
TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL: 594 ng/dL (240-950 ng/dL)
TESTOSTERONE, BIOAVAILABLE: 232 ng/dL (No standard range given)
17 HYDROXYPROGESTERONE: 1.3 ng/mL (<2.2 ng/mL)
DHEA-SULFATE: 849 ug/dL (80-560 ug/dL)
DHEA: 10.8 ng/mL (1.3-7.8 ng/mL)
ACTH: 88 pg/mL (5-52 pg/mL)
17 HYDROXY PREGNENOLONE: 1160 ng/dL (55-455 ng/dL)

-High Values

Could my symptoms stem from having high levels of DHEA and Pregnenolone? Also I probably have very high DHT because of the edging as well.

Thank you very much to anyone who reads this.

Pumpkin seed oil is dangerous. I took that shit for years, not knowing it was doing damage. please watch out. I think you’ll be fine because you didn’t take an oral saw pill.

Thanks for the reply. The pumpkin seed oil is literally the only thing that has helped me in the past year. I even stopped it for a few days and went back to the dull and lifeless eyes and worse mood. What about the low libido and other symptoms? I definitely don’t feel too fine.

Sorry, didn’t see how long you had symptoms. Do you get morning wood? I think this is a good indicator of psychological vs physiological sexual issues.

You are really young dude and I think you’ll recover either way. Just try to be healthy and positive. You will see great positivity and negativity on this forum. Please try to keep a positive mindset and make baby steps to always improve yourself

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I was even thinking of taking a saw palmetto pill because it would lower the high DHT from edging. I definitely think something is up with my androgen receptors because of edging. I read a case study from a chiropractic neurologist that if DHT is too high it could block androgen receptors and give you symptoms that are similar to low testosterone which is kinda what Im experiencing. He ended up prescribing the guy saw palmetto and other supplements which would help improve hepatic functions and he felt better within a month.

My morning wood is on and off so I’m not sure what’s going on. I don’t think its psychological, I’m certain there’s something wrong physically.

This stuff is fucking rat poison. Same here dude, Im almost your age (19), and I still can’t believe that I became a total eunuch from some tree leaves.

Does edging make your DHT higher? I never heard of this.

In terms of edging, that would destroy your libido. When a real girl comes along you won’t be as turned on because it is not as visually stimulating as porn.

I rarely edge nowadays, once every month or so for 30 minutes, gonna cut it out completely. I watch porn 4-5 times a week so now I’m gonna cut it out for good and see if it helps. I hope it doesn’t take more than 90 days to recover though.

Been long time since you posted, but I hope you’ll see this… Do you have any updates about your state? Foligain fcked me up as well!!