2 years Fin.6 months off. Pre and After fin blood tests.

  1. Where are you from (country)?

Germany

  1. How did you find this forum (Google search – if so, what search terms? Via link from a forum or website – if so, what page? Other?)

google.de, alopezie.de

  1. What is your current age, height, weight?
    19 years, 175 cm, 70 kg

  2. Do you excercise regularly? If so, what type of excercise?
    I’ve been exercising unregularly 1-2 times a week till a knee problem 4 weeks ago.

  3. What type of diet do you eat (vegetarian, meat eater, raw, fast-food/organic healthy)?
    mix between healthy and fast-food.

  4. Why did you take Finasteride (hair loss, BPH, other)?
    hair loss

  5. For how long did you take Finasteride (weeks/months/years)?
    almost 2 years

  6. How old were you, and WHEN (date) did you start Finasteride?
    17 years, 3 months

  7. How old were you when you quit, and WHEN (date) did you quit?
    19 years, 2 months

  8. How did you quit (cold turkey or taper off)?
    taper off, I reduced my dose from 1/3mg every day to one tablet every week, every 2 weeks and then discontinued with treatment.

  9. What type of Finasteride did you use – Propecia, Proscar, Fincar or other generic?
    Propecia

  10. What dose did you take (eg. 1 mg/day, 1 mg every other day etc.)?
    1,5 year 1 mg.
    2 months 0,5 mg
    3 months 1/3 mg

  11. How long into your use of Finasteride did you notice the onset of side effects?
    Cannot really say, I think after 8 months the first side effects ( weaker errections / reduced sperm) appeared.

  12. What side effects did you experience while on the drug that have yet to resolve since discontinuation?

Put an X beside all that apply:

Sexual
[ X ] Loss of Libido / Sex Drive
[X] Erectile Dysfunction
[ ] Complete Impotence
[X ] Loss of Morning Erections
[ X] Loss of Spontaneous Erections
[ X] Loss of Nocturnal Erections
[ ] Watery Ejaculate
[ X] Reduced Ejaculate
[ ] Inability to Ejaculate / Orgasm
[ ] Reduced Sperm Count / Motility

Mental
[ ] Emotional Blunting / Emotionally Flat
[ X] Difficulty Focusing / Concentrating
[ ] Confusion
[ X] Memory Loss / Forgetfullness
[ ] Stumbling over Words / Losing Train of Thought
[ ] Slurring of Speech
[ X] Lack of Motivation / Feeling Passive / Complacency
[ ] Extreme Anxiety / Panic Attacks
[ ] Severe Depression / Melancholy
[ ] Suicidal Thoughts

Physical
[ ] Penile Tissue Changes (narrowing, shrinkage, wrinkled)
[ ] Penis curvature / rotation on axis
[ ] Testicular Pain
[ X] Testicular Shrinkage / Loss of Fullness
[ ] Genital numbness / sensitivity decrease
[ ] Weight Gain
[ ] Gynecomastia (male breasts)
[ ] Muscle Wastage
[ ] Muscle Weakness
[ ] Joint Pain
[ ] Dry / Dark Circles under eyes

Misc
[ ] Prostate pain
[ X] Persistent Fatigue / Exhaustion
[ ] Stomach Pains / Digestion Problems
[ ] Constipation / “Poo Pellets”
[ ] Vision - Acuity Decrease / Blurriness
[ ] Increased hair loss
[ ] Frequent urination
[ ] Lowered body temperature

[ ] Other (please explain)

  1. What (if any) treatments have you undertaken to recover from your side effects since discontinuation of the drug?
    Nothing special, some supplements like 100mg Zinc, Vitamin D3, Muira Puama.
  2. If you have pre or post-Finasteride bloodtests, what hormonal changes have you encountered since discontinuing the drug (pls post your test results in the “Blood Tests” section and link to them in your post)?
    I’ve mad pre and post Fin blood test :

Conclusion :

my Oestrogen decreased by 50 %.
my Testo decreased by 10 %
my Androstendion decreased by 30 %
my DHEA’S decreased by 34 %
my SHBG increased by 21 %
my 17-OH-Progesteron increased by 28 %
my FAI ( Free Androgen Index) decreased from 85 to 63. which means 26 %.

  1. Anything not listed in the above questions you’d like to share about your experience with Finasteride?

I dream less times.

  1. Tell us your story, in your own words, about your Finasteride usage and side effects experienced while on/off the drug.
    I’d really like you all to give me advice what to do. I’ve been to two different doctors, which don’t take me serious.

I just made a plan , which whill start mid of june to recover :frowning: for about 6-8 weeks)

3 times lifting heavy weights a week.
2 times sprinting ( HIT)
3 times swimming.

Supplements :
L-Carnitine
L-Arginine + Pycnogenol.
2,5mg Cialis ed.
Yohimbine HCL
Noopept & Choline.
Zink
Omega 3 fats.
Archaidon acid
alpha lipon acid.

To raise my tseto/estro levels :

Either :
HcG:
first 16 days - 2.500iu eod
Clomid:
50mg ed for 45 days
Tamoxifen :
20mg ed for 45 days.
DHEA’s : supplementation.

Or ( the less medical way :slight_smile:
DAA
Tribulus
Creatin

I’d really like to hear your opinions.

I am really searching fot help.

We all are my friend. I’d advise to stay away from the arachidic acid and daa.

@vincentv you 've sent me an PM, but I cannot answer this one, because in this early stage of being an member I cannot send PM’s whats kind of a crap.

I don’t have Skype, but ICQ could be a solution.

This is for protection from spammers, which may sign up as new users and spam products via PM (spammers are actively purged from the site).

Once you have become a regular member you can PM others without issue.

Some advice for me, what to do ?

Starting a pct ?

Hey, mate!

We’re all looking for advices and help. Unfortunately, there is still no general treatment for our problem. You say, your doctors don’t take you serious… Then go to another one. If you don’t try to help yourself, nobody will. It’s hard, but sitting in front of your computer and waiting on help from other sufferers will not make you get or feel better.
In your position, I wouldn’t supply any risky stuff… Especially without the supervision of an expert. Just get a little bit more active at first, do sports, lift weights… Remember to eat healthy (less fat and sugar, more fruit and vegetables) and sleep well. I think, this is the first step, you should take. Speaking for myself, I can say that particularly sleep is a big factor to feel healthy.

Woher bist du genau?

Regards…

I see no hope left in my life.

10 months off - nothin improved I just got sleep issues, I am not reaching REM anymore…

New Hormone values :

174 62-191 Cortisol basal
1,52 0,4-2,6 Androstendion
2,9 0,8-5,6 DHEA-S
30,9 10-57 SHBG
29,1 <45 Estradiol
0,55 ng/ ml Progesteron
2,28 0,03-2,16 17-OH Progesteron basal
161 30-350 17-Hydroxy-Pregnenolon
15,9 6,25-21,94 Pregnenolon
1,5 1,5-12,4 FSH
4,3 1,7-8,6 LH
14,2 4,0-15,2 Prolaktin
4,97 1,93-8,38 Testosterone
821,3 250-990 DHT
9,06 1,68-35,3 Androstandiol-Gluccorid.

I hope somebody can say something…

Jesus christ I feel so sorry for you. I cant believe they gave it to you at 17 when they should only start you on it at 18. even then I personally think docs shouldnt be giving this poison to anyone under 30 or anyone at all unless they have prostate cancer.

I feel like garbage and want to kill myself having taken it at 23 and being off it for 16 months

Necro

How serious are you about ending your life?
Is it just words or do you really feel that way?

Are you taking any medication to help you cope with these feelings?

I’m in the mental home, taking Remeron which seems to help a little.

Why dont you seek help please for how your feeling?

PM me anytime

I feel very depressed right now.

My hair is falling out like hell. I just turned 20, I am a NW4-NW5, there has been no improvement since quitting the drug ( no crash either), took my last pill 13 months ago.

Cannot get it up, even not with Cialis,viagra or anything else. I look pretty ugly with almost no hair left on my head.

I am going to start a 3-month cycle of Andractim, if this does not change anyhting suicide is one possible option as life is not worth living like this.

How sould I ever pleasure a girl, without using my dick, and without the urge to interact sexually. In addition to that I am pretty small… seems like god did not have a plan for me in this world.

Push !

No signs of improvement, no errections at all.

Trying some Andractim atm, with no results…

Don’t kill yourself. The studies in the works have the potential to heal us. Stay strong

How will the studies heal us?

Hi krx, How are you doing mate?

Your story has really shocked me and I want to help you with whatever I can. I am also european, very young, short, took it for 2 years, also had penile fibrosis and almost every symptom. Fortunately for me 1 year off life is bearable and I keep on improving.

You can PM me anytime you want.

Stay strong.