Seriously I’m in my 30s and have muscle wastage, complete ed and all th other symptoms. Is there any hope out there?
If it was just ed and the rest I would do intensive supps and exercise but the wastage prevents that.
Men with fewer symptoms than me have nonetheless been shutdown for a decade, year zero for this drug.
Plus I look shit, starting to look like an AIDS patient.
Is there any hope out there?
Have you tried an arginine based growth hormone secretagogue?
Be useful to get 8 AM, 12, 4 PM and 10 PM saliva readings on cortisol, backed up by 8 AM and 4 PM serum coritsol readings, and ACTH (8 AM, no challenge).
I think you will mate! I will definitely visit a pro after a while longer if things don’t improve. We all deserve to have fun, and if i have to pay for it occasionally well so be it.
I wish I’d visites a pro when I was younger so I would have been more sexually aware and alive to what was going wrong with me when I took fin.
I’d have to use caverject to get a hardon with a hooker, only no libido so would be like a lesbian with a strp on.
I couldn’t answer your PM’s as the feature is disabled for me. I answered them in my thread, but my responses haven’t been released yet. Make an appointment with your GP, and check all your hormone levels. I’m certain your testosterone level is way too low. Hear what the doc says, and if you’re not below the threshold which gives you the right to TRT, help yourself.
Eden,
What is your thyroid panel like? Reverse T3, Free T3, Free T4, TSH?
Did you test for 3a-androstandeiol glucoronide to measure 5 AR II activity?
Thanks,
anonnn
I don’t know. I’m currently awaiting results from my blood work which was done yesterday, and I’m mainly interrested in hormone levels related to impotence/ED, which is LH, FSH, testosterone, estrogen, prolactin and SHBG. I don’t think there is any problem with 5 AR II activity in my case. The fact is that I’m on TRT, and I’ve found out that increasing the testosterone dose gives me itchy scalp and hairloss. Increasing the finasteride dose as well (yes, I’m still using the drug), solves that.
Enden, if you are still using the drug – what are you doing here? This forum is for men with persistent sides that continue even years after quitting. Until you quit, you won’t know if your issues will resolve. Why are you choosing to take the medication despite all you have learnt since?
I don’t think you Are allowed to post if your still on p… But why not just stop propecia? If it is affecting your hormones negatively… I mean u may not even need trt off propecia. Who knows
I’m here because I’ve something in common with all of you. I did quit after 4 months, and 6 months went by without getting better. So what the hell, I want my hair, and I’m definately not going to give up, when the drug fucked me over so bad. Many men use the drug without any side effects, and I want to be one of them. I’ve been through the whole list of side effects, and I ended up with secondary hypogonadism - which isn’t even listed. I’ve been self-medicating myself over the last 8 months, as noone would help me. I’ve learned alot and I’ve almost recovered, while still using finasteride. I believe that the problem is caused by DHT deficiency and altered testosterone/estrogen ratio.
You don’t have ANYTHING in common with us, because we are all off of the drug. Should you quit the drug, then you will have many things in common. But until then, it’s pointless for you to be here.
Enden who is treating you? I see on Hairlosstalk you are on HGH as well as TRT. Did you start TRT after stopping propecia initially? If you’re using andractim that defeats the purpose of finasteride.
Ah, forget it. I see where this is going. I’ll be over at HLT. Good luck to everyone.
I think Eden has alot in come with us!
he said he got hypogonadism beacause of fin.
after 6 months of quiting the drug he still had symptoms.
He is now on TRT because he used finasteride.
how is this not related to us ??
the only thing is, he decided to use finasteride again. Personaly I wouldn’t do it, couldn’t care less about my hair now, but come on don’t judge everyting by a complete dicotomic perpective (if you are on fin get out, if you are of it you are welcome), in many situations it can be applied, but this wasn’t such case.
Very simple. HE IS STILL USING THE DRUG. If you’re using the drug and have these side effects, then you know why you are having them, because you are taking finasteride. If you stop taking the drug, and are still having side effects, then you belong in this forum with the rest of us. The fact that he is taking HRT and other steriods while still using the drug is even more ridiculous.
i understand your point.
but he said he had quit the drug and 6 month after quiting he was still having symptoms.
6 month after quiting he still had symptoms! —> then he began trt and included fin on his protocol.
In fact he was was a unique source of info. because he did something that probably no one here will ever do again, i know i won’t (to take fin again) and managed to get better.
just beacause he his on finasteride right now doesn’t mean he can’t share info about what he suffered and what he did to get better in the past the first time he quit the drug.
his symptoms CONTINUED DESPITE QUITTING Finasteride in the past, regardless of what he is doing now.
anyway not worth discussing about.
cheers.
It couldnt hurt to follow “how things unfold for Enden” . He is unique here (for sure) …so maybe we coud learn “something” by following his progress or decay?
What if he comes up with some kind of “hair of the dog that bit him” protocole?