Update: still completely recovered, raging libido for the last four years

[Mr.Children]

TribX one.
Yea, I know it is neither medi nor vemo,but in Japan I don’t have any access to get them.
So I am using as much amount of medi one as possible.
u have any idea of estrogen?

[vkg1]

I think there is almost no chance that your E has gone up within two days. General it takes a week or something for people taking very high levels of T to see higher E effects.

[Mr.Children]

How about the case my E has been high since getting pfs and increase of T affects something?
Surely I agree with you.

[vkg1]

What makes you think people with PFS have high E?

[Mr.Children]

well,I saw several threads where some say pfs affect estrogen,for example JQD’s.
However,probably E can be very low in pfs sufferers.At least, I believe E is one of the keys to cure this hell.Of course, not all of them though…
then what other than the idea of E do you think gives me BAD ones?

[Mr.Children]

Interesting

@skorpio88

Maybe the dose youre taking is too high. The idea behind gradually ramping up the dosage is to get the body used to (gradually) increasing levels of androgens, not to overwhelm the body with massive, relatively sudden increases of androgens.

My own personal experience with tribulus is that I CAN tolerate 3+ pills of tribulus (I think we use the same kind btw, tribX-90, even if we dont the strengths and mgs are the same) however I respond better to a single pill of tribulus. Taking 3+ pills of tribulus doesnt really affect me in any way at all

That being said, in the past before I used soy I would get negative side effects by just taking a single pill of tribulus, I could only tolerate like 1/4 a pill of tribulus at the time. After doing a few cycles of soy I could comfortably take 3+ pills of tribulus with no negative side effects. My theory about this is that there are actually two things to consider here. First of all we have to consider “negative tolerance”, that is to say, we have to consider how much of a substance our body can take before we begin to experience negative side effects; the second thing to consider is how sensitive our body is to a given substance in terms of experiencing positive effects. Previously I was under the impression that “negative tolerance” and “positive sensitivity” were one and the same, but my experiments so far suggest otherwise.

For me currently, my negative tolerance has been decreased drastically by doing a few soy cycles (IE I can take 3+ pills of tribulus without experiencing any negative side effects) however my positive sensitivity to tribulus has not significantly increased. As I said before, I get optimal effects by just taking a single pill of tribulus and I get steadily decreasing benefits the higher I increase the dosage of tribulus. Therefore I have come to the conclusion that I have to separately focus on increasing androgen receptor sensitivity and that simply using soy alone is not sufficient to induce androgen receptor sensitivity.

As for increasing androgen receptor sensitivity I think the key to doing this is using “threshold dosing”. That is to say, we need to use the bare minimum of a substance to trigger an effect in the receptor and gradually increase the dosage from there. In order to do this, currently im using a pill cutter to cut the tribulus pills in half and trying out a dosing schedule that looks like this:

day 1: half a pill
day 2: half a pill
day 3: one pill
day 4: one pill
day 5: half a pill
day 6: none
day 7: half a pill

Its too early to say whether or not this will be effective, but I think its something worth experimenting with. Ideally I would like to cut the tribulus pills I have into fourths but this is impractical since the pill itself contains powder which obviously makes splitting the pill properly difficult. Previously I was trying this dosing schedule:

day 1: one pill
day 2: one pill
day 3: two pills
day 4: three pills
day 5: two pills
day 6: one pill
day 7: one pill

However the effects of this dosing schedule were just soso and ironically I noticed that the positive effects from the tribulus decreased as I increased the dosages. Like I previously suggested though, I think when it comes to increasing “positive sensitivity”, the key concept to keep in mind is that “less is more”, we are trying to gradually trigger the receptors, not overwhelm them

[Belikewater]

Hello I did also crash very hard and developed Gyno from a brand of Tribulus, but Mediherb was completly different reaction. What is the brand that you took?

[Belikewater]

have you tried 5DHP for sleep from Ideal Labs? It helped me a lot!

[Belikewater]

I hve increade lately a increase in body hair (transforming into a wolf hehehe), hands have more dark hair, and other parts of the body also, and the hair also seems more large, weak and thin and also dark. Anyone that has taken or not MediHERB tribulus have noticed the same?

Thank you

[Forwardsnotbackwards]

Can tribulus interact with any other remedies? My plan was to use Amino acids like L arginine for restoration sexually and L Tryptophan for sleep/ mood etc but adding tribulus sounds like it could be a good option too

[Belikewater]

I would not play with aminoacids, specially l triptofan or l phenilanenine can damage you very hard.

[AaronF]

I’ve been taking bcaa should I stop???

[Rb26dett]

This is the brand that I took.
I took it for 3 alternate week (a week of stop between the other). First 2 week, I took just 1 pill per day (half of the reccomended dose), third week I took reccomended dose (700mg) for only three days, than I stopped it. After a few days, I crashed extremly hard. Every side is worsened dramatically.
If I can reach an erection, my glans is ever soft.
I lost sensibility. My penis size is 1/2 of pre tribulus. My mind is blowed up, my derealization is over the top, I have bad cognitive problems, short time memory is totally gone. I can’t drive anymore, I lost my job. My muscles totally disappeared. My joints lost tissues and I have same osteoartithis symtoms. My hairs start to fall a lot (I can see the black bulb) and I haven’t AGA. I don’t sweat anymore, i don’t produce sebus, I don’t produce earwax, my skin lost elasticity and is thinner. PDE5-I lost effect. TRT lost effect.
@Belikewater

[AaronF]

Very sorry man.

Did you also take the zinc around the same time you took tribulus?

[Rb26dett]

@AaronF no, I took zinc before. I was taking a supplement for fatigue and immune defences that contains 60% of Zinc’s RDA (optizinc), Potassium and Magnesium. I never ecxeeded dosage.

[Rb26dett]

Several months earlier, I also took a multivitamin that contained 15mg of zinc, but it didn’t do anything to me. In the early periods of PSSD, I also took a testobooster that even contained 30mg of zinc. I stopped him after a month, because it had no effect. So I doubt that it may have been zinc.

[Forwardsnotbackwards]

They are?? I thought they would be ok as our bodies naturally produce them etc etc

[RipLife]

Hey guys i read somewhere(can’t find where) that fruit parts of Tribulus contain β - sitosterol which we don’t want to fuck with. Can someone confirm me that ? I know tribulus contain phytositosterols( β - sitosterol) is one of them. As i can find online, medherb doesn’t contain fruit, while other do. Is there any cheaper tribulus that doesn’t contain fruit extract? Medherb is dirty expensive lol. Thats why i think @Rb26dett crushed with his tribulus!

[Rb26dett]

In practice, it is as if I had taken saw palmetto … A death sentence. @riplife

[NOSOUPFORYOU]

I have the same experience. My facial hair grows faster and I have increased body hair in general. But I always have a feeling that things fluctuate some, do you share the same experience or does thing improves in a steady way for you?