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UK, judging by what you have said in previous posts, you still have the ability to have sex. You still think all is lost?
As far as suicide goes… I have been to that point and back again and realized if I am going to leave this world it would be best to at least throw my life away for the cause…
This doesn’t have to be a big secret. You will probably be surprised how many friends, family members, and co-workers will believe you/be on your side, especially if you explain to them how propecia has been proven to fuck with hormones. Might as well spread the word if you feel like you have nothing left to lose at this point.
Hope you ultimately decide to stay with us.
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Even if it was not helping the cause, I have wanted cold revenge for what has been done to me, hopefully sending a very public message and ending my pain at the same time.
I’m pretty much over that now and more or less in the same predicament you are. Just wasting time until some real research finally reveals useful information and trying to stay sane and keep my life together in the meantime.
Even if there is a snowballs chance in hell of finally feeling better it’s worth sticking around for.
Dubya, didn’t you take accutane and no finasteride?
Hi UK20,
I totally know how you feel, I’ve been there. Right now I am in pursuit of every specialist I can get referred to in the UK. I am now being seen by a top doctor in the country, and have an appointment on the 28th. Any information I find I will pass onto you, I am experimenting with lots of things myself and I am dammed if this thing gets me, Im also in a lawsuit in the US where I was prescribed this shit. You are doing all the right things to help yourself, and you only feel like this because you’ve obviously crashed again, and thats when most here felt like ending it . Just always read into the positives, as there are allot of negatives on here. I think I sent you my e mail so if you need to know anything else drop me a line.
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Yes, I took a generic of accutane and ended up with “PFS” somehow; so have many others, some before the idea of PFS even existed. Both accutane and propecia lower DHT by inhibiting 5AR type-I and type-II respectively. Also accutane has been proven to lower the levels of androgen receptors in the skin. Who knows what other body parts it may effect? I do.
I don’t want to take this thread somewhere it doesn’t belong with a propecia vs accutane discussion, so enough of that. If you’re trying to bring up the discussion of who to get revenge on, I don’t even want to go there. I’ve mellowed out big time since I’ve had such thoughts.
Nobody with our problems seems to be coping well, but almost all of us are obviously coping enough to not blow our brains out.
I feel for you man, I don’t know what else to say.
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Any success with this UK doctor?
Post finasteride crash? You’ve posted about (EDIT) smoking lots of weed, drinking heavily, and doing extasy repeatedly.
Am I mistaken? I warned you about this multiple times and you kept at it. I hope for your sake you can recover some over time but please use this as a warning to take better cre of your body and warn others who may engage in such behavior.
Martin, why are you trying to blame things which a very high number of people do instead of the real cause finasteride? i don’t want you to call me up on anything other than my finasteride side effects because i suspect that you were actually a hypochondriac before taking the drug.
I have taken huge strides to live a very healthy lifestyle (paleo diet, well researched supplement regimen) and i have at times reaped the rewards. For you to call me up on using ecstasy twice as well as smoking cannabis (which you were claiming is a cure) is completely ridiculous. Oh, and i haven’t touched coke once in my life.
It’s users like you who are one of the main reasons i question why i still even use this forum. I have had 15 months to see how different things affect me, so don’t ever try to tell me what i should and shouldn’t be doing. I am 20 years old, and won’t be giving up every fun thing in life. Now, delete your post with the quotation and fuck off.
I’m not saying fin isn’t the cause. I said repeatedly that you should take better care instead of doing drugs and drinking. Marijuana did help me though the effects diminished and I spaced out the dosage greatly, with weeks to months in between, it has just been something I use(d) when I have extreme shrinkage because it helps. Many of us on here experience diminishing returns with even the most basic of substances for our condition (take tolerance to Viagra for instance).
Just because a high number of people do something doesn’t mean you can do it when you’re trying to recover from PFS.
Suspect all you want about me, I dont give a damn. I’m just frustrated with people who are warned of consequences of continuing harmful behavior, continue anyway, then complain when you crash. You were still functional when you continued to party post fin, weren’t you? Please forgive me if I’m mistaken, however I recall some posts here where you said you didn’t think it mattered…
Let’s not compare suffering here. Weve both suffered from fin enough. But there comes a time when you have to make hard decisions especially facing the hormonal and probably neurological damage incurred and saying "I’m young and I’m gonna have fun obviously leads to crashes, hence the earlier warnings and the “I told you so” now. Also, There is a difference in using cannabis occasionally for symptom alleviation and smoking regularly to get high.
Btw, thanks for the sentiment, “If I find a cure I won’t share it out of spite”. You selfish shit. Every time I think I have something I post it immediately. Unfortunately none of these things work long so it hasn’t helped much, however I try.