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How about your other post-propecia symptoms?

Has your endo checked out other hormones for any imbalances i.e. thyroid, adrenals? Have you been tested for any vitamins?

Also, you said you’d tried clomid/nolvadex before TRT yet you also say you only had one blood test before trt. How did you know to use the SERMS for low test and how did you know the impact they had on your levels?

sorry to hear it isnt working anymore

again, this points more and more to an issue involving the androgen receptor or the genetics which involve the actions of the androgen receptor, not the circulating amount of androgens themselves - as someone with extremely high androgen supplementation should have no problems with ED/Libido/etc.

I agree Golf…Some experimenting needs to be done…Doctors need to loosen up and try harder…

Let’s start with Procainamide, I have yet to see anyone take it…That’s what I’m aiming for.

wow, maybe this is true after all. Don’t you have ranges though?

edit: ok , thanks. Have you ever tested DHEA/cortisol?

Your story, wasn’t sure if it was just a load of bull. :smiley:

No adiol g or dht? this are things that were both inhibited by fin right? id assume they are important to test.

be as pessimistic as you choose - but id say that depends on the individual. i mean he didnt even test your dhea.

I also was at a point where a PDE5 inhibitor was working with the testosterone and now it no longer works. just like everything else related to testosterone. Like the AR are dying off or something! Thats what made me think of kennedy’s disease - like what if the testosterone was making it worse…

I have also had this experience except with Clomid. When I was on Clomid Cialis worked pretty reliably. Once I got off it Cialis has been hit or miss. I will usually work if I only take it every 3 weeks or so. I had to quit Clomid as I couldn’t take the mental effects anymore.

Hey Dustin…these are solid numbers but I guess you’re still dealing with the return of ED?I would try to get Adiol-G checked asap because it would be good to see how the high dose Test is affecting it.Not trying to mix topics…but I’m surprised that your T3 and rT3 were normal since that’s the latest approach some of us are looking into.

how r u feeling now w/o any Test. how long r u planning to stay w/o any med. I think u will soon feel low T effects.