I don’t know why tumbleweeds thinks “it’s not that bad.” Everyone suffers to different degrees. Stop acting like you know how everyone feels. You know how you feel and that’s it. Your “motivational speeches” seem like backhanded compliments.
Luckfax when did your emotions come back?
Took me 2 years, now I am loosing that belly fat, sweating all the time, I do 250 push-ups a day, I am aggressive, my zest for life is back.
The thought of working out a year ago was a joke to me, this syndrome can turn on it’s head fast. So yeah, push yourself a little, get your minds in the right place. Anyone can get substantially better
Good job. See guys? That’s how it’s done. I don’t have the zest for life I used to have. But I refuse to succumb to depression and enjoy life now.
The key is getting active. Gym and weightlifting is critical to overcoming the anxiety, depression and feeling confident. Manly. Every person experiences muscle wasting if they’re not working out and eating the proper diet. 25 or 65, doesn’t matter. I could barely bench 80 pounds when I got back in the gym. Now I do 100 pound dumb bell inclines for reps. You guys all need to get active, that’s a big part of the solution.
Finatruth said it took him two years; Paul is barely a year out.
Tumbleweeds, you are 8 years off the drug. Didn’t you have a rough couple of years or was it “easy” then as well???
When you say things like, “it’s not that bad,” or “it’s easy,” you are assuming everyone is in your same condition. Everyone is different. If this was “easy” there wouldn’t be people committing suicide or thinking about it. Everyone is fighting their own battle with this, and some people are way worse off than others. Try and understand this.
Your motivation is awesome, but I’m sure you can do it in a more positive way.
Thank you and well said!
i agree,exercise is very important,it can be night and day for me,its the best way you can fight back against this shit for sure,im into my seventh year of pfs and have been getting some improvements lately due to taking my recovery more seriously,getting rid of all the stress in my life for a start,starting a workout routine,and following some basic advice from a book ive been studying,its called adrenal fatigue,the 21st century stress syndrome by james l wilson,great book,its really helped me,upto now ive only been following the basic stuff like cutting sugar,caffiene and alcohol out and eating healthy,also eating a little fat before bed to get a good night sleep,this shit really works,erections are better,sensitivity is better,even feeling a little orgasm sometimes,and im sleeping like a log,depression and anxiety are fading,im taking no drugs whatsoever,just following the advice in the book,i know how bad pfs can be in the begining obviously ive been there but you do have to get off your arse and do something if you want to get better,i used to log in here all the time reading every word looking for answers but not really doing that much to try and recover…
Excellent Robbo, good news.
Nobody here is saying exercise isn’t important. We’re just saying people need to understand we are all in different places with this condition and that you can positively motivate people without being an asshole.
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also eating a little fat before bed to get a good night sleep,this shit really works,quote]
my sleep is pretty bad. how exactly do I improve it using this technique? what kind of fat should I eat and how much?
It was all a steady decline. Had I gotten into the gym and been active immediately, it would have helped enormously. None of it was good, and my comment about PFS being ‘easy’ is a relative comment. I have been through much worse. Guys with PFS can still enjoy life, activities, women. They are not handicapped, shuttered in, paralyzed, mentally or physically. The opportunity to enjoy life and improves ones lot, still exists, albeit at a lower capacity. However, life is still GOOD.
While everyone here wants sympathy, what they lack is action. Sure, some sympathy is helpful and necessary. But it absolutely needs to be coupled with action. Otherwise, all you get is DEPRESSION that trends towards suicidal behavior. That’s what is going on here. People mistake a call to action as being cold hearted, calloused, mean spirited, or being an asshole. Guys, get a grip. Action is going to save you. The bottom line is if everyone here wallows and sympathizes all day and talks about how shitty this is without ACTING, they WILL get VERY DEPRESSED and will trend towards suicide. That’s why you need to be hard on yourself in this regard, get off your collective asses, get active, and ENJOY LIFE…
How this starts, in practicality - get in the gym, weight training, 5 days a week. That’s your start. Everything will build from there.
As for me, I never recovered. Going on 9 years now. Still impotent. No nighttime or morning wood, no erections, no libido, brain fog, poor memory, lethargy etc. Everytime I date a woman I have to take Viagra. Such is life guys. I have trialed various supplements on and off for the past several years. Have found some that improve various aspects of the condition.
two slices of toast with peanut butter before bed or simillar,keeps the blood sugar level steady throughout the night which should give you a good sleep,its working for me…
I believe 100% bc of excess estrogen we suffer from adrenal fatigue
The point is: Not everyone is you, and you are not everyone.
I have blurry vision and severe dry eye. My eyes don’t want to seem to work together anymore, and I get dizzy and nauseous pretty easily because my brain can’t handle this new vision. I can’t read a book nor stare at a computer like a did at my old job. At this point, I have to find a job where I don’t need “normal vision.” I consider this a handicap. Sure, there are things that are worse, but it’s a “disability” that I now have to deal with.
No we don’t. The way you said it was kinda assholish. Many people have said the same things you have said, but in a more constructive and positive way. Telling someone to “get a fucking life dude,” is not a call to action, it’s just rude.
I believe many of us have the chance to reach a point with this condition where we can learn to live with our issues. Many people do see varying degrees of improvement. The problem is: we are all hit differently and our bodies will all react differently. It takes a year or two for a lot of us to even break out of the shit cloud that has been thrust upon us.
I don’t know man, I just don’t think people want to read posts about how easy or “not that bad” PFS is. Are there things that are worse? Of course. But the fact that people have killed themselves (or are currently considering it) makes this extremely serious and very difficult to deal with for some people.
Anyway, good for you for pushing through finding a way to live with this shit and still strive to get better. Just try and remember some of us are fighting to just get past the first couple years here, and we don’t need to be told it’s “not that bad” or we “need to get a life.”
The word for the day is: TACT.
Sorry if I’m preaching guys. I just wish this site was more positive at times. I know it’s hard and we all get aggravated. I haven’t expressed myself well at times either. Tumbleweeds is right about getting some exercise and trying to get out there and live as much as possible.
I took onboard some of Tumbleweeds positive crticism and dragged my arse for 2 mile run today after a 10 hour shift at work… nearly killed me but I’m going to try and fight the fuck out this PFS with a healthy lifestyle of exercise and good eating. It cant do any harm, I have been guilty of moaning like a bitch at times, sorry to those who took offence to it but i’m going to try and be strong and fight this bitch!!!
Hopefully I can stick at it
Love hearing that, man. Way to go!
Good man! That’s the attitude! Whether it takes 2 months, or several years to recover from PFS, that work ethic guarantees you a positive, healthy, happy future. Giving in to the depression, while seductive, is straight up dangerous. By staying active, we can still enjoy life, stay positive, and healthy. Which is the most important thing!
If you’re a runner, run. If you’re a swimmer, swim. Lifting weights is great, too. In 12 months of consistent exercise (4+ times a week), your body will look totally different. And you will feel totally different. More confident, stronger, perhaps higher libido, and be and look more healthy. Girls will give you more attention as the weeks pass and this will build and strengthen your confidence.
When you’re ready, go out and have some fun. Pop a 100 mg Viagra, go out to a bar or club with friends, and meet women. That confidence in a pill really does its job, and you can have some semblance of a normal sex life (albeit with diminished enjoyment), and have real relationships. Most women don’t need to get banged more then once a day. A guy with PFS and Viagra can handle this, no problem.
In the meantime, we’ll all be here trialing different products/supplements/treatments to cure and enhance our libido/eq.
The biggest most important step now is to be consistent with the exercise. 4 plus days a week. You’ve made the best step already - taking responsibility for your future and choosing a healthy one! Congrats man.
And sorry man. I just want to say one more thing - we’ve all been there. I’ve been there - defeated, blaming everyone, wallowing, depressed, crying, feeling hopeless, cursing God etc. Every single one of us has been there man. It takes time to move through it, but being active is honestly the best way to tackle this. That never say die attitude towards exercise AND LIFE is what will save us all.
God bless.
Yeah Tumbleweeds!! Fight!! Kick PFS’s ass!! Yeah!! Go!!! (Just make sure you don’t, I don’t know, actually trouble yourself to participate in any research that could help lead to a cure…) Fight!! Yeah!! Suck it up!! You can live with this!! (While the research may lead to a cure, you don’t need to participate, but you will endure every day and never have a bad attitude - even though a cure would be better…) Fight!! Yay!! Sunshine!! Rainbows!! Butterflies!! (No research for me!!) Awesome!!
Good luck Paul.
This is the single greatest post anyone has ever written on here. It captures the situation perfectly.
I love butterflies.
Edit: lol just joke