Could be a feedback issue involving DHT and or Estrogen.
Generally it is free testosterone that is low in post finasteride men.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15342358
Obviously the study was based on hyperandrogenic females, but shows the importance of brain GABA in the production of testosterone.
Finasteride has huge potential to mess with GABA.
So do you think that GABA could help?
I must admit when I tried xyrem I felt amazing, shame I can’t get anymore of it. I’ll give you some answers tomorrow
@Jonson and Propecashiz- We’re all hypogonadal. That basically just means you exibit symptoms consistent with low functional activity of your sex hormones for whatever reason. Muscle waste, ED, fatigue, weight gain, decreased libido, etc. Hypoandrogenism is low T. For example BP is hypogonadal but not hypoandrogenic.
Am I screwed for life if my levels are low?
Propeciashiz, we wouldn’t be here if something wasn’t wrong with us. You shouldn’t be surprised that T levels are low. If you look further you will probably find alot of things are off. They certainly are with me-including low T.
No one knows. We will know more when Awor and his team publish over the next year.
have you guys looked at the molecular structure of fin? This is shitty man made steroid. we replaced our natural God made steroid and now we are paying the price of intervention in God’s work. Just google steroid general structure and see how close it is.
I assume you didn’t test your T prior to using Fin so you really wouldn’t know what your baseline is anyway.
GABA doesnt cross the BBB. Picamilon may be worth a go, not sure.
Suffice to say I wouldn’t hop on the TRT wagon yet… try clomid/hcg (injectable) first.
too many reasons probably
-local malfunction of testicles
-depression of the whole system (from amygdala/hypothalamus/hypophysis/testicles)
-increased or decreased signals from testicles to hypophysis or from hypophysis to hypothalamus and further up or vice versa
-drop of neurotransmitters/neurosteroids levels in your brain that basically build up GnRH
and many other reasons
to me this condition is so similar to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
its just the other major hormonal path involved HPG instead of HPA
both stem from enzymatic malfunctions triggered by some serious stress
so in this sense using any hormone could be useless because even the feedback signalling won’t be the same as before
im surprised not even cortisol makes a difference for me, no energy difference, no clarity of thought changes, nothing. Even combined with thyroid T3/T4 and testosterone does nothing
its like my brain setpoint is different in utilising all this exogenous hormones
and endogenous work up to a specific level
any stimulant uplifts my energy to a minimum of like 10%
the stronger the stimulant the more tired i feel
coffee has not the same effect as before where i felt overpowered
now i feel doped
but how the fuck this damiana works in my libido i still don’t get it
its been a month of use and everyday is just like the previous day and even better
despite the antibiotics used which would deplete most of my neurotransmitters any make damiana worthless this little piece of herb just does an amazing work
yesterday i think i had a prostate orgasm, i was cumming for like 2 minutes non stop and felt contractions and chills all over my body
brrr
receptor in poor condition.
Ok… why the useless posts?
Hey I have my Pre fin levels, some how the crash overwhelmed my Pituary and shut it down.
They havn’t suggested clomid?
They said its for females… This is a nightmare
It has uses in men too, to increase endogenous Testosterone production.
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Thanks mew, does the risk outway the benefits though. Wow I’m in such shock that 2 tablets can send a healthy 21 year old to pituitary and low test problems. I really hope I pull through this.
P.s Ive got nothing to lose now, expect a media story this week.
You do realize this thread is about testosterone?