Temporary recoveries - why do these happen?

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#7

i always experience fake recoveries :smiley:

is always two step forward, one step back, one step forward, two back.
now seems good, but who knows in some weeks

#8

i borrow from martinm this list of improvements and i point out what i gain temporary
in my 20-30 days recoveries

  1. get an erection immediately (not instantaneous but with visual/mental stimulation)

  2. have multiple sexual activities daily to multiple orgasms (no, i could only for some days)

  3. getting spontaneous erections often (not without stimulus)

  4. having daily morning erections (yes)

  5. have multiple orgasms/ejaculations in a row (no, maybe some but i don’t want try)

  6. have as strong, satisfying feeling with orgasm (not as before fina)

  7. gain and maintain erections in any position ()

  8. shoot ejaculate for a distance rather than dribble it (depends from days of abstinence)

  9. have a pressing libido urges through the day to have sexual activity through completion
    (this absolutely not)

  10. have full hard erection size every time and no problems with over-shrinkage after orgasm
    (after orgasm always shrink a bit)

#9

Ok, I’ll go - I’ve had two full blown recoveries that have lasted about 3 days each: The first was a couple summers ago, I was backpacking. I can only speculate that the ruggedness of it got both my ego and testosterone going, but my libido was sky high.

Second was this past April. I thought cutting out alcohol (after a few weeks of partying a lot) and going gluten free would help. A bit to my surprise, they did! I had a really high libido for three days here as well. Returned to my PFS state and stayed on the diet for a few more weeks without improvement.

I know this is a sensitive sensitive topic - but in both of these recoveries for me there was a mental component. Hiking, I was feeling very “manly”, and last April I believed a treatment was going to work and it did - for a few days. Then it disappeared. I’m not suggesting this is a mental problem but there is some component at work here for me at least…

#10

Thanks guys, this is great food for thought. Don’t know what to make of these, but still appreciate it. Would love to hear more.

#11

nyer
Unfortunately, I have never had shot-time recoveries. I am also a long-time sufferer and for me almost every day is the same. I don’t know why my body isn’t able to readjust to the marvelous pre-finasteride state. It really was a wonderful life - now its crap for almost eight years!

#12

This is my situation aswell.

#13

The short term recoveries are indeed strange. I am glad i have experienced them because they give me hope when i am at rock bottom. However, at the same time, it is really fucking horrible when you think the finasteride ordeal is over and then you end up back in hell.

I can remember being SO happy when i was feeling good on holiday and the time i re took propecia. I realized just how much this condition changes me. It is literally like being a COMPLETELY different person in some ways, mainly you desire sex like every other man.

It’s crazy when i think my body can switch back to normal like that and yet it won’t stay that way. If only i knew why. I don’t think we will ever know.

#14

This.

#15

I too go through random short term recoveries. Have no idea why they happen. I have noticed recently that they are happening a little more frequently. I probably have a brief recovery once every 8 weeks or so. They only last for like 3-4 days though.
It makes me soo mad too these little recoveries always happen in the middle of the week. Once the weekend comes and Im ready to put my johnson to use again the recovery fades away.

#16

Great Topic. I had an extremely powerful temp recovery a few mouths ago after being at the bottom for years.

How it happened: I was especially Desperate for recovery as my girlfriend of years was on the verge of breaking up with me as this problem was taking such a toll on us. One night i took a prescribed drug that takes weeks to get into the system. I recieved massive results starting that very night. It was nothing more than a placebo effect. This placebo effect was somehow powerful enough to have drastic emotional, and physical changes.

The following is what i Gained from my temp recovery.
-Elimination of my extreme insomnia. Currently I routinely go 24 hrs without sleep, not even yawning. This was the first time i truly felt tired since this happened.

  • Return of libido. The first thing i noticed was the feeling of my heart beating faster after seeing an attractive women in a commercial which is something I haven’t felt in years, I could feel it in my body and brain. Penis size returned to 90%. Penis sensitivity returned 75%

-Return of acne.

-Itchy flaky scalp like I had before this all happened.

  • Pre cum. One thing i hadn’t even noticed i lost until it returned.

What this can tell us: There are people who including myself at one time believed we are forever damaged. Our DNA has changed etc. I feel this can’t be the case now. It would not be possible to return to health so quickly so drastically. All the tests we take say hormone levels are normal etc. It makes sense to me that somehow the problem is in the brain, which is what Iv’e read some dr’s are speculating. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying the problem is just in our heads. I’m saying I think that some connection in our brains is not working properly and my placebo effect somehow bridged this gap.

#17

IMO this points to that our problem is autoimmune, IF you go on forums for rheumatoid arthritis or interstitial cystitis , people report the same thing. For many people symptoms disappear for many days or weeks.

I also get this kind of recover but only for hours to one day maximum where I feel a lot better but then get a nose dive.

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#18

this is a pretty interesting post because i was just searching this site for adrenaline. today, i am suffering from a recnt pretty bad crash, anyway, i woke up this morning and my body felt like it was in full shock, like i had a ridiculous amount of stress pumping through my body, i couldnt think straight, i was light headed, i felt terrible… i started eating anything i could find and it helped it. it went away for the rest of the day.

then later tonight i’m talking to some customers at my job and all of a sudden the body shock comes back, light headed, feel like i’m going to throw up, my back starts aching and throbbing, and i have to leave.

then, again tonight i’m sitting on my couch and i feel completely emotionless, like i feel nothing… no sadness, no joy, no nothing. i’m like, what the hell is going on? i decide at this point that my neurotransmitters are obviously screwed up and the only way i know to realign this is extreme exercise, so i goto my backyard and get this extreme exercise session going on. i ran for about 10 mins straight up and down my stairs and DID NOT FEEL TIRED AT ALL. WTF? Usually, I go for about 3 minutes and have to seriously push myself. Tonight? Nope… complete maximum energy. at this point, i’m somewhat worried because i’m wondering if im about to pass out because i don’t feel anything?

anyway, i come in and start doing crazy pushups and start feeling myself coming back to reality. i think what happened was that i had a MASSIVE adrenaline rush. my body felt as if it was extremely eneregized, the way you feel before a fight, but i didn’t have any emotion to counter it. i also felt some kidney pain earlier. anyway, i don’t have any idea what was going on but i search for adrenaline and found this thread so i figured i would share my story. i’m going to exercise some more because i know the way to get rid of adrenaline is to force it out…

#19

I had a week of almost full recovery after a period of high stress. I also recently had a few days of feeling ok in some areas after a period of stress. Tim just posted a link on another thread stating that stress may be beneficial for auotimmune disorders and that short term fasting can reverse autoimmune disease… It’s pretty interesting. Goes to show how differently we’re all affected though, some guys symptoms worsen if they get stressed

#20

I have had temporary recoveries after eating like crap and drinking alot same as the poster above
this is helllll

#21

I get this sort of thing Bryce. it just creeps up on you and ruins everything that you are doing, even if it is just watching TV.

I am not joking when i say that we really are going though hell, i actually can’t think of much worse than this. I am starting to feel very bitter about the whole situation. It’s a good job i didn’t get it off a doctor because i would probably have killed them by now. I would happily torture and kill the people that put this drug out there knowing it can do this to people.

I was reading stories earlier on the thyroid madness website about people that lost everything because of thyroid problems and low testosterone etc. Families turning against them because of scum bag doctors, losing there jobs, losing there driving license. It’s probably me in a few years.

#22

Just want to revisit this to see if there are any new anecdotes of temporary recoveries, and what may have caused them.

I’m still so confused as to why I had a week long recovery when I went through a week believing that it was mentally induced. I’m curious to hear of others’ temp recoveries.

Also, how do these temp recoveries fit into the theory of altered genetics?

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#23

I too believe this problem is mostly mental. I have had several semi-recoveries and my head is the most clear during those stretches. When I overdid weed one night, my anxiety came back full force and my penis was the smallest I have seen it, period. Depression and anxiety don’t account for everything, but a very large part I believe. I think the brain dictates a lot more of this than we realize. Quite honestly, it’s scary. I really wonder if there are anti-depressants I could be taking that would help me out.

#24

I believe it has to do with the anti-bodies. As soon as your body is recovering, probably producing DHT it senses it and then shoots off anti-bodies to combat it and that is why you go back to PFS. We are stuck in an endless negative loop.

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#25

And if you read a lot of the stories in this thread you see that many people feel a brief recovery after a stressful situation. Thus, stress increases cortisol probably gets the DHT and test going, so a little brief recovery and then it can not maintain it or for some reason anti-bodies come out and back to PFS.

#26

I seem to be in a cycle of recovery and then returning symptoms.

I’m logging my sleep, diet and sexual activity.

Can others do the same? Once you’ve logged enough days we might be able to find some patterns to encourage more good days. I use a notes app on my phone. It takes seconds every day.