Stress causes all the symptoms

[Fanjeera]

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@Fanjeera

And stress itself also lowers the levels of neurosteroids in the CSF, so that finding in the latest study is probably a consequence not the cause.

Those levels are so low that I really doubt about this. IMO fin + “stress” did the mess with neurosteroids. Still some symptoms might be due to stress/ptsd, others however are clearly consequences of the hormonal actions of finasteride.

Exactly how low are they? I haven’t still seen the full study with the exact results. I have asked for it many times. There’s only the abstract.

@dgreene

How can you be so sure Fanjeera? I remember when you claimed to be 100% recovered. If you truly believed you were recovered, you would have been happy that you were out of this mess and not depressed. But here you are still suffering.

I’m not so sure about it anymore. I have grown so dependent and interested on this topic that I just can’t let go (deciding to study medicine was a mistake also probably). I often still think my semen is not the same and penis sometimes feels different (perhaps light or numb). Though, I’m about to get the diagnosis of pudendal neuropathy (explains the different sensitivity and less shooting ejaculate), which ironically is the problem for many people here. And I’m also seeing a psychiatrist who says that the difference in feeling is due to stress.

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Practically, some neurosteroids were depleted on the patients who were tested. I don’t remember the tables so I can’t be more precise.

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@ihatefin

We can discuss post trauma symptoms when a cure for PFS is found. This IS the trauma.

you think a trauma is all in your head and affects only your thoughts. you’re dramatically wrong. Stress can kill a person and I personally know two persons who lost all their hair because of a trauma, not even comparable to the one we went through. You might think it’s a joke, it’s not.
Then what is so ridiculous about stating that a trauma could influence the healing process? Of course however I cannot predict if removing the trauma will heal the condition in the medium term. The only thing I am sure of is that we all had a STRONG trauma and this should be considered an important element to keep in mind in our seek for a “cure”. Neglecting this, could prevent therapies from working.

[Alvin_13]

Although I personally think this thread is complete BS, I did stumble upon this interesting article about PTSD and epigenetic changes.

“The question is, if indeed the problem is in the DNA, can we reverse this program and do we have tools to reverse that?” says Szyf. “I’m very interested in that and we’re doing some experiments in animal models.” The group is using drugs that can affect gene expression, such as some cancer treatments, for example, to figure out whether they can help to reverse harmful epigenetic changes like those leading to PSTD-like symptoms in animals

sott.net/article/261521-Chil … ic-changes

[THETIGERSHULL]

Stress may play a small role in PFS or maybe an even bigger role.

Some stresses can be brought upon by ourselves over thinking and worrying, other types of stress which i think finasteride causes are the uncontrollable stresses which occurs when our body is at natural rest and should be repairing and healing but cannot and will not because of the drugs intoxication.

My main belief is that our condition stems from a neurological defective condition which in turn creates a hormone imbalance.