Sorry man I have these issues too. As well as many other problems. Body does not react well to pro kidney foods /activities. Its very difficult. Insulin resistance can also cause a lot of these issues which I also believe many of us have. Very dry mouth dark and foamy excessive urination especially during the night.
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Now when I recall, I see my very first symptoms after starting SP were
1- Diarrhoea and gut issues.
2- Excessive watery urination. When I say excessive it does not mean frequent but with large volume more than my water intake. I was peering and peeing. My hands and body was going dryer and dryer.
3- Breaths with foul smell. I still get it back time to time. I never had this.
4- Waking up in the morning with bitter taste.
It looks like I have got all the symptoms already, but numbers for damage started showing up since 2012.
When I search I find if you have above normal vasopressin level and yet urinating a lot (watery) then more likely it is kidney issue. Your kidneys are failing to concentrate urine and your brain is pumping out more and more vasopressin.
NOTE: * Please do not get alarmed. I do not mean everyone who took Fin/SP has kidney issues. I have not seen many stories about kidney damage after using Fin/SP. Maybe I am the only one but it is better to check your kidney function and vasopressin level.*
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I have the same issues I piss absolute loads also I have times of the day/night when I have the sudden urge to pee loads and they correlate with start and peak of thr cortisol and testosterone cycles. Urine is pungent smelling. Skin is very dry peeling on scalp palms and scaly elsewhere.
Urine output exceeds water intake.
My Vasopressin levels mostly normal.
Sorry I hope Iâm not muddying the waters.
NB Gut and digestive issues are a huge problem for me too
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I must pee every hour or two, day and night. Wife says it is the worst smelling pee, too.
Doctor is watching my kidney numbers, so he must see something worrisome if not yet alarming. FYI. Jim
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I have shared my lab values here. Please get your tests/labs done and then share. Do not make assumptions/speculation as this might be depressing for some people.
I am also a frequent urinator but not in the noon/evenings/over night. My urine spells come in the morning, also started with the length of the SP crash. It doesnât really smell though. Its gotten somewhat better over the months, just something I deal with now as embarrassing as it can be.
Hi striken I am same as always.Still constant 24/7 brain fog feeling like I have had 3 beers.I am still working full time and we had a kid 2 years ago actually so my spare time is really limited.I really wish i had more.Low libido but Viagra works well enough, it is what it is.
Anyway, we know there are dialysis machines that can work for the kidneys, any such thing for the liver? Heard promising things several years back.
I surprised most of us are still the same after such along time.
Update:
My condition is more or less the same. Blood test shows now I have entered into diabetes yet have not started any treatment. My cholesterol is high too but I have refused to take any medicine despite my doctorâs insistence because I have seen side effects of statins are same as saw palmetto.
Now my interesting observation. When I get up during the night sleep I take VitD and sleep again. VitD gives me a surge in testosterone and i see colorful dreams but within seconds my state changes and I start crying. The happy dreams turn into some depressing scenarios and my emotional state falls from joy to sadness or depression. I think my testosterone turns into estrogen or some other hormones very quickly.
Has anyone tried Naloxone? I am asking this because
Opioids generally suppress Gonadotropin-Releasing Hormone (GnRH) release from the hypothalamus, leading to decreased levels of Luteinizing Hormone (LH) and Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH), causing hypogonadism (low sex hormones like testosterone/estrogen) in chronic users. This disruption affects reproductive function and libido, but the effect on FSH can be less pronounced or variable compared to LH, with some studies showing significant LH drops but less change in FSH, while others see both decline. Naloxone (an opioid blocker) can reverse these effects by increasing LH and FSH.
Now read this, it is interesting
Naloxone, an opioid blocker, interacts with gluten components (gliadin exorphins) in celiac disease, blocking their opioid-like effects on immune cells and gut function, suggesting these gluten fragments act through opioid pathways, potentially explaining some celiac symptoms or masking them, with early research showing naloxone reversing glutenâs effects on leukocyte migration and intestinal transit. While naloxone itself isnât a treatment for celiac, this linkage highlights how gluten can trigger opioid-like responses, and low-dose naloxone (LDN) is being explored for autoimmune conditions like celiac by modulating these pathways, though itâs not standard treatment.
Now since our LH, FSH and Thyroid are suppressed, I am hoping Naloxone might help us.
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