Questions for Dr. Shippen? I'm going to see him soon

General Discussion
#21

Doctors are basically useless, even the research ones are moving at a snails pace and their not approaching it from a treatment standpoint. Their just doing it in the academic sense, they don’t seem to want to discuss the science behind any of it, mostly and probably because they dismiss the opinions and experiences of non-doctors.

You can keep paying to go to these PFS specialists, I wasted a few hundred dollars on them myself, but you probably won’t get very far.

We’d all be better off paying for our own genetic analysis, a few thousand per individual is what I think the cost is… hell knows it would be a lot faster than the studies currently doing these genetic analysis.

#22

WTF is WRONG with you people?!

Seriously, you’re depicting doctor’s help as USELESS?! Even doctors like Shippen who RECOGNIZE what we’re going through?

For your information, I feel a HELL of a lot better after seeing Shippen. I don’t think of killing myself everyday, I’m not depressed everyday, and my dick isn’t the size of a dill pickle everyday.

Seeing him DID help, ALOT. My old self has come back some, and for that I am thankful.

They’re not SCAMMING you, they’re trying to HELP you. FFS, you realize part of the reason people feel like there is no hope on this site is because of the half of you who just immediately shoot down any idea of getting better?

And as for the whole porn topic I brought up, I don’t believe it’s entirely irrelevant considering many of you complain of a lowered libido and I was trying to state a way in which you could increase you libido. Many people who hold off from masturbation experience great benefits, one of them reported often is increased libido.

#23

Atticus,

If you are feeling better, we are all very excited. Merck has made most of us too sick to fight back so anyone who is battling just to stay alive in all this deserves credit.

As for the doctor issue, yes at least guys like Shippen have been acknowledging PFS. One less ignorant doctor peddling this poison. As for what we thought about doctors though, men like him are no different then stem cell clinics in India. They haven’t a clue what is wrong with you but more than happy to charge you a fuck load of money to give it their best shot.

If he and other docs were truly altrustic, they wouid share their protocols to help as many as possible but clearly there is a reason they don’t. I saw Jacobs a few months back and asked why if he has seen so many patients and even he acknowledges this as a molecular level disfunction, why he hasn’t tried to employ the help of labs to do a more thorough analysis of PFS. I wonder why others like Shippen who have the volume don’t actually try to study this. Isn’t that what medicine is all about? Our lives are on the line here. This isn’t a game to us and it certainly isn’t a business. The only authority any doctor can claim with PFS is his insight into the condition. And I am not impressed with how little a contribution any of these doctors has made in even attempting to study our condition.

#24

What precisely has he given you that has helped?

#25

HCG, B12, Testosterone PG drops, and a generic version of Viagra.

Get an erection at least once to twice a day without any use of porn, and overall have a much better outlook on life.

While continuing using this medicine, checking in with Dr. Shippen, checking up with my dermatologist, working out, and continuing the No Fap challenge, I believe I am on my way to seeing great recovery/results.

#26

Well at least he’s doing it the right way, giving you HCG with your testosterone, most guys here on test are taking it by itself.

#27

I seriously wish I could find the answer to figuring out how to fix the loose skin this drug has caused me though.

Like, the muscle wastage can be fixed… that just takes time… but the fact that the skin around my cheeks is loose makes everyday life so annoying.

Fillers are NOT a great option in my opinion. You’d have to spend sooooo much money to try and fill up what finasteride has taken away, and fillers wouldn’t even be a permanent result.

At this point, unless my face somehow tightens back up through exercise and balancing out my hormones, I’m looking into Ultherapy or a mid face lift sometime in the near future…

AND I’M ONLY 24.

Merck is such a corrupt piece of **** company

#28

can you post a photo?

#29

Sounds incredibly expensive. That’s a lot of drugs for something which nobody truly knows the mechanics of yet.

#30

I’d rather not.

Right now, my face probably looks fine and young to the common person, but I get people telling me “you look tired” regularly now because of the dark circles under my eyes that formed, and I know for a fact my cheeks have dropped causing nasolabial folds .

If I bounce up and down or run I can literally feel my cheeks moving. It’s entirely abnormal for someone my age with my bodyfat.

#31

Is the skin on your face/cheeks now stretchy and/or fall with gravity?

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#32

Yup.

If I bounce, my cheeks and entire mouth seem to drop with gravity for a moment.

Lately I’ve even noticed my whole upper body now moves with gravity… I was used to my chest doing it because I have a big chest, but now it’s like my entire stomach too.

I’m bulking at the moment, so I can only hope losing bodyfat will help with this problem once I go on a cut.