Quality of Life?

It’s like I don’t experience anything in the same way that I used to. Like the part of my brain that is responsible for pleasurable sensations has been shut off completely. I don’t think about sex anymore ever. I don’t have any confidence in myself… My hands are dry and they hurt all the time, especially in the mornings.

0/10

your worst side?

Can I ask if anyone on here has the most crippling insomnia after their crash? This song with the anxiety is the worst side for me worse than any sexual sides. To shit yourself every time you leave the house, pure panic attacks, this is a lad who travelled the world for 18 months, has travelled all over the world now he can’t even leave his house to go to the local shops. Yet belgravia say “there’s no way this can be finasteride it’s all in your head” yeah it’s all in my head I’ve got the testosterone levels of an 80 year old man. How this can be sold/prescribed is beyond criminal

Have Belgravia written to you or e-mailed you saying this in black and white, or did they say this to you in person, or over the 'phone? If you haven’t already, I’d speak to them again and record the conversation.

All on the phone unfortunately. They are a disgraceful company with nothing but utter contempt for their clients, they are nothing but customers who bring in sales for their company, hair loss advisors are nothing but hard sales agents telling you what you want to hear they are scum absolute scum

5 out of 10. Worst sides no sex drive and ED. Coming up on my 9 yr anniversary of my initial crash. Have gotten over most sides except those 2. If I could just get my mojo back I’d be almost normal again.

Good to hear. What other sides did you deal with?

7/10. If you had asked me two years ago, i would have likely said 1-2/10. Things get better. If I could just conquer sleep issues without resorting to drinking… I’d be all set :slight_smile: Hang in there, buddy.

Thanks man :smiley:

I had several panic attacks after quitting fin and had really bad insomnia. Now my sleep is OK.

Try to find somewhere quiet to sleep.
Go away for a few days if you need to, so that you can de-stress.

I found the best thing to help with sleep is to exercise everyday, walking/swimming/weight lifting … whatever you enjoy best.
But don’t overdo it.

Valerian helped my anxiety, but don’t take it everyday otherwise you may become dependent on it.

I have sent you a PM to wish you a speedy recovery

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1/10. I had to break up with the love of my life, now she’s seeing a huge muscular guy and I can’t build muscle no matter how hard I try. I have pains, can’t get an erection even with high dose viagra, can’t sleep well. I used to be very good looking, random people on the street used to ask me if I was an actor or something. Now my face looks thin and sickly. I had golden blond hair, now it’s a shitty green-grayish colour, and I still lose hair. I still expect a miracle but the chances are that I’ll end my life at some point this year…

maybe 2 out of 10 worst days probably a 0.

What symptoms are you dealing with?

Low energy, low well being, loss of motivation and when I eat the wrong foods. Anything estrogenic I lose all emotions. This is very hard to live with. Low appetite. Can not gain muscle. Can not get excited. 0 libido. Fat on hips. No more hairloss. Also now sleep problems.

I did a chest xray 4 months ago and got some more probs from that which I can not really blame directly on fin. But fin caused me to get it.

The positive of this is that I fixed most problems for days with either testosterone or antiestrogens but the benefits do not last.

I Got PFS AT age 17 in 2012.

Quality of life was prob 60%. Luckily i had no depression just 0 emotions. Felt like a psychopath. I then injured my back and thanks to pfs it didn’t heal so i was unable to sit in chairs due to pain.

Life was 50% then. Worked 70hr weeks telling people im assexual. Fell in love with trance music. Discovered Entheogens and life was 80%

Then 4 months ago i made the biggest mistake of my life and played with pharmaceutical anti estrogens desperately trying to heal from pfs so i could enjoy my 21st birthday. I crashed and never recovered and have 1000 new side effects.

Worst sides from pfs: Low libido / apathy

Current worst sides: severe connective tissue degeneration leading to requiring care everyday due to severe disability. Cervical spine instability leading to compression of brain stem causing tingling all over face and limbs with involentary jerks. Dementia grade brain fog

PFS is the worst thing ever

0/10 full of shit - side that bothers me the most having all of these persistent/permanent sexual sides. P.S. fuck the Belgravia Centre and fuck Merck

Belgravia centre fucked me over too, kept asking why I don’t just go on propecia when their stupid cream failed to work.