Propecia Suicides

I was recently asked to sign a petition, and read the list of names and comments. I got tears in my eyes when I saw that at least 7 people signed it because someone close to them committed suicide. I realize that we need to create a website - preferably a section on propeciahelp.com - where we have profiles of everyone who has committed suicide because of the drug. It could be a channel for people who’ve lost their loved ones - an opportunity to share their story and be heard. It appears to be enough suicides already to create a lot of heat. The FDA doesn’t care about lives that are ruined, but they’ll be forced to act if a lot of people are killing themselves because of the drug.

Sign this if you agree.

I agree this brings home how dangerous the drug is. When you have countless suicide stories linked to finasteride they can not be dismissed.

just one thing, we have no proof so far, and thats why this fucking people think its pyschosomatic.

I have proof. I’ve lived it, and almost died because I didn’t want to live after what it did to my life. 4 hospitalization during my homeless periods. I couldn’t take care of myself it was so bad. I don’t see it getting any better guys, but I took it for a long time. I have a lot of anger now, before I just thought-well, I had no idea really why I was having these symptoms. The trauma from the symptoms and getting unemployed and seemingly a dark cloud over my entire life and everything I touched it was bad luck. My memory loss was the main cause, but the depression and panic attacks we so painful too.

But I survived HIV when there was no treatment at all. I wasn’t about to die of my own hand, but really, my life spiraled downward from a successful career person with a beautiful home to living in the streets within a 12 month period. It was blamed on drugs and alcohol which was another misdiagnosis. But they tried to pin it on anything. I had a few drinks, and tried to self medicate. It’s almost unheard of not to do that with severe depression. But, now, without any recovery or actually with a failed recovery I don’t drink or take any mind / mood altering drugs. I just pray.

Signed.

It’s sad beyond belief. I also believe that recovering from Propecia is a waiting game. It does take years, for most people they have significant improvement after 3 and they’re fine after 7, and I’m 3 years into my recovery and feel a lot better.

I don’t think that the CEO of Merck needs a petition, although I still signed it. He knows what is going on. Really, it is up to the law to stop Merck. They’re not stopping it themselves because there’s just too much money to be made in chemical castration/hair-loss treatment apparently. But there’s some horrific corruption either in the FDA or somewhere else that is preventing Merck from being stopped.

What is needed is some powerful, reputation damaging publicity, in the form of a large demonstration outside a large trichological treatment centre, or heckling the CEO when he is speaking publicly, or something like that. I think that it’s important that protests are done in a legal manner though, and nothing illegal like vandalising trichological centres with graffiti, egging the CEO in the street, or anything like that should be done.

Frazer does whatever he want.

He kills People and make Money.

He lies, he steals, he kills.

The suicides are incredibly sad but in a way I feel relieved for them. They no longer feel the terrible pain and misery we go through on a daily basis.

Anyone who I’ve told about my situation I always say I wish I have of been killed in a clean honourable way. No man should have to be watch powerlessly while his world crumbles around him while getting not one ounce of sympathy or understanding.

Maybe it’s different for the less severely affected suffers but this ain’t no life!

Well said

Sadly more victims will follow the same route as Dr Stewart

Sympathy? Fucking people went out of their fucking way to make my life worse when I got PFS.

I don’t buy that for one second. You should never kill yourself if you have PFS. It hasn’t killed you and you will get better from it. I lost virtually all my sex drive for a year, I’d call that severely affected, and now I’m shagging away just fine 3 years on. It’s not 100% but I’m getting there, and you will too. And what have you got to lose in waiting to find out if I’m right?

No kidding, about sympathy, ha, try persecution. I’ve forgiven my co-workers, all Registered Nurses who were as in the dark about this drugs side effects as I. There were so many expectations after I finished my Master’s degree in 1995, but during this time, I had began the propecia. I had no motivation though after graduation. My co-workers noticed my energy and behavior decline but were quick to assume I was diverting narcotics (it’s an occupational hazard because of access). Others, too, as I assumed, it was the HIV that was still doing something, somehow, despite the fact that my immune system stayed normal and I didn’t die along with the other 11 male RNs I worked and cared for in my San Francisco Hospital in the early 1980’s. Yes, all the time I’m thinking HIV is eating away at my brain, my penis too but Viagra worked in the beginning… but just not doing the usual HIV things like infections. My labs were normal. Well, I’ve said this all already, but when the it hits the fan…on my last days in my 28 year employment in Critical Care and Open Heart Surgery, pressure was put on me to not call in sick–as I was doing so often when I felt bad and shaky. So, I came in to work feeling bad and shaky. I must have looked ghastly because of the way co workers were looking at me. Even one of my patients said she didn’t want me near her (which had never happened before). I knew I should have stayed home but I couldn’t lose my job from calling in sick too much. The Main Nurse manager was called at home and I spoke to her on the phone. She said my speech was slurring. I said, yes, I’ve been unable to sleep because how I"ve been feeling. My latest antidepressant, like all the others aren’t working, but I had to come to work anyway. The nurses I had known for years and years and spent more time with than my family all turned against me instead of supporting me and believing what my interpretation of the cause of my health was (of course during this time 2007, I had no clue propecia was the culprit…self esteem takes a huge hit. The ego gets annihilated. Luckily, because of thinking I would die at any moment during the HIV deaths I began a spiritual journey which kept me alive from propecia (I digress), so I decided to leave my job because they just offered the same counseling I had already been doing for years. Well, soon after, everything I owned and my then $750,000 home in San Francisco, appraised nearly 1 million by now, were lost. All of it, and I was hungry. No body helped me. I tried selling some things to people at work and even though I was still employed, but not with patients I was told to leave and not come back or they would call security. (That Nurse manager, really a lovely women, suddenly lost her job a couple months after I left…I really believe it was from the fallout from me and the perception that she let a nurse loose on patients that was diverting drugs for umpteen years…I don’t know… but this poison in our lives runs deep and repercussions blindly effect others too. It’s kind of funny these major diseases I have had before I knew they existed inside me or even had a name. HIV, then Propecia. Ha Ha. Oh I’ve got lots more which I know each of us could write a tragedy of stories with never ending sequels. I know I should have put this in my bio/history but my point is appropriate here, plus I’m new and Propeciated. the point is that like mental illness people that don’t have it can’t really understand it and think its all made up and we are hypochondriacs or kooks. but its numbers around the world, growing, that will tell our truth. Oh, I told my new MD to look at this website(this one) to get an idea of where my health concerns are. I told her what Propecia is doing to people world wide, and its why I’m disabled and sexless and alone, and poor, and hopeless and tired and in pain and anxious and I’ll stop… she looked at me and said, " well, all medications have side effects" she doesn’t get it yet, but she will. Hang in there people…but I don’t think this is reversible, especially for as long as i took it. The theory of spotty mylin sheath destruction of the neurons, similar to multiple sclerosis really makes most sense to me. I know physiology, and nerves don’t regenerate the sheaths, at least without some future help. That’s enough. bye.

“I don’t buy that for one second. You should never kill yourself if you have PFS. It hasn’t killed you and you will get better from it. I lost virtually all my sex drive for a year, I’d call that severely affected, and now I’m shagging away just fine 3 years on. It’s not 100% but I’m getting there, and you will too. And what have you got to lose in waiting to find out if”

So you’re telling me my numb dick which has shrunk and lost all it’s volume and weight and has diffuse fibrosis will just simply return to normal someday?

Eh, no.

Lots of people on here have never recovered any sexual health after many years. Count yourself incredibly lucky and don’t insult the rest of us who will not ever be “shagging away just fine” again.

I don’t give a shit who you are, put any man in my current situation and suicide will occupy a lot of your thoughts. Death becomes a deliverance from the suffering.

At Tubman

You are spot on again

My dick is the same as yours

With the changes to my dick there is no chance I will be shagging away anytime now or in the future and suicide crosses my mind everyday

Tubman see your PM

my dick looks like deflated balloon…

I’m sorry about the way I wrote my post above, it was carelessly phrased when I said “shagging away”. I was trying to talk someone out of taking their own life and I was trying to be encouraging.

Actually, 4 months ago I had the symptoms you described in a big way, Tubman, and I found an amazing remedy which has greatly reduced the problem, and I do now look and feel 80% back to normal. Here’s my story:

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A lot of people seem to recover after about 7 years who I’ve spoken to. I’m sorry if there are some who haven’t, but isn’t it worth waiting to find out which one you are?

You don’t buy what mate? A merck stock option laden with blood? Who says you? You can’t speak for “everyone” it hasn’t killed “yet.” Awwwwww…poor baby. Lost your shag drive for a year? Cunt, many on here have not had a sex drive in years, some like my6self, for 6 fuckin’ years off this poison. I’m sorry, I have no sympathy for people who seem to come across as those who want to kill us for money; as in the US global corporate fascist state. “And you will too” Sound familiair pfs brothers? Most likely a shill. "And what have you got to lose in waiting to find out if I’m right?
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Sounds very capitalistic and suspect to me, without an ounce of sympathy or remorse for lost lives.

Erm I don’t think I deserve that for trying to talk someone out of committing suicide. I was fucking lucky to have an early and sudden escape, but the first two years I did literally “see beautiful women like how one sees trees”. Propecia cost me my career and my best friends last image of me before he was killed was a weak, reclusive shell of a man who hadn’t been laid in two years.

My name is stopMerck. Not joking, last night I had a dream where the boards heads were on pikes outside the White House. And if you look up my other posts I think you will find I am hugely against capitalism and corruption in the US.

I can’t remove that comment I made, I didn’t mean to gloat. All I’m saying is you don’t know what’s around the corner, even if you’re convinced that you’re screwed, they might find a cure tomorrow, or it just might bounce back, you don’t know.

Sorry about my comment again, I wish I could edit or delete it. I’m going to ask the administrator to and I hope he will asap.

Also read my story, I found a remedy that lead to a sudden significant recovery, jelqing. I believe I put the link in above.