If any one has a pre fin d3 test result please post.
Unfortunately no since I felt phenomenal prior to fin I had no reason to suspect any problems.
I do not understand why we cannot arrange some antibody testing. You would think Irwig, would at least be able to arrange this.
I hate to rear my ugly head again…but this is exactly what I have been theorizing. Actually Propeciashiz had a vitamin D test PRIOR to his usage and was low…ever so slightly low after propecia as well. Low progesterone (estrogen dominance) / low testosterone has been associated with low Vitamin D according to some literature. I belive we were all ticking time bombs! Very good find!
Vit D comes from the sun right? I know personally my exposure is minimal as someone who spends most of the day on the computer I rarely see daylight. Meh I dunno if this predisposed us. Ill sooner believe this than due to which side of the bed I sleep on!
Perhaps we have some sort of defect which kept our vit d levels on the low end pre fin.
I was in the sun about 8 hours per day for 5-6 straight days prior to my crash. I would suspect my vit d levels were highish.
vit D is just the effect not the cause. I know many who are taking Vit D but never took Fin. They are not close to us even by 1%. One of my friend was diagnosed clinically low vit D and was on Vit D shots now takes 2000IU daily but he is good as bull.
I have my reports from pre SP use every thing was normal, all got destroyed after SP.
Thank you so much for backing up my point. Vitamin D deficiency alone is not much of a problem, which is why no one would have noticed it pre fin.
The problem only starts when DHT returns and 5ar2 regenerates (quitting finasteride) and the low vitamin D levels cannot stop the immune system from attacking the hormone and or enzyme.
But in reality without a test you wouldn’t have a clue. It might also be different for people who took saw palmetto at age 14.
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You’re right I do not have a clue, but why would I suspect it was low? It far more dubious to assume it was low with zero proof than to assume it was in range.
Don’t know of any guys who took SP at 14 (or even 15) who are on here so no idea where you are going with that…
1,25 has been discussed a few times. The information Dr Marshall presents is pretty interesting as it is completely counter-argumentative of what conventional science tell us about Vit D.
yes, I believe we are Vitamin D deficient because low progesterone levels. I also theorize that we always had lower progesterone levels and higher histamine to begin with. Thus the seemingly “minor” inhibition of allopregenalone/progesterone has…well destroyed us.
Anyone every hear of dydresterone? (spelling) it’s a drug used to promote Allopregenalone