********please post your stool parasitology results*********

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#33

I’m curious to hear, too, if you figured out a regiment/therapy against parasites or if you have already done such -JN-. Please do tell us if you can! There’s couple of regiments i have seen but seeing Dr.Emerson’s would provide more understanding into the issue.

Also, a finasteride person i know was found with a ridicilous amount of food allergies without symptons = basically leaky gut. I know a recovered guy talked how he got all kinds of food allergies he got a reaction on after he crashed. I was found with a infection in the prostate and SO FAR treating it has seem to beat my chronic fatigue in it’s entirity but i have to wait until next summer to find out if it’s the true culprit (basically i haven’t killed the infection yet). Lots of people here complain prostatitis symptons.

What i mean bryce, is not to attack you but i’d like to remind here that even if your deduction and reasoning says with your current knowledge that no, why could that be possible… well, you might be just wrong because you don’t know something or haven’t thought in a different way. Possibilities.
Nevertheless, we’re all the same anyways in that we have to find the right solutions by ourselves so i’d like to clarify that i’m not here to fight but to learn and figure out maximal amount of good therapies and information. Let’s work together Come on Come on Let’s work together ~ canned heat

#34
  • JN - I’m sorry that you are receiving so much backlash. I would do this test but I don’t have insurance and can’t afford it. If you do have the means - WHY NOT!?!? Why must we shoot down everything before getting a harmless test done. This man is a DOCTOR. What if he is the doctor that develops a cure!?!? Some of you seem like you are DETERMINED to stay sick.

Thanks - JN - keep it up, if I find myself in a better situation with health care soon, I will get tested.

#35

Hey bryce,

No worries. Yes, we all have GI parasites and/or systemic yeast infections due to our low body temperatures.
Dr Emerson prescribed me the following:

  • stromectol for ‘GI parasite, taxonomy unavailable’
  • nitazoxinide for Enterobius Vermicularis worm.

The point I was making about heavy metals was that they contribute to lowered immunity and a lowered body temperature, especially copper. That’s all.

I hope this helps,

JN

#36

sorry, maybe it was the other way round (stromectol for worm) etc

JN

#37

-JN-

The results from my stool test are:

Commensal (Imbalanced) flora:
2+ Beta strep, group B
1+ gama hemolytic strep
1+ Kiebsiella pneumonia ssp pneumoniae

  • Low levels of beneficial bacteria found
    (such as lactobacilli, bifidobacteria, clostridia and enteroccia)

  • Presence of yeast
    ( small amounts detected so not much of a concern)

  • Low levels of Secretory IgA
    secreted by mucosal tissue and represent the first line of defense of the CI mucosa and is central to the normal function of the GI tract as an immune barrier. Mental and physical stress as well as inadequate nutrition have been associated with low fecal sIgA concentrations. Synthesis and expression of aIgA requires adequate intake of the amino acid L-glutamine.

Should i be concerned about the presence of Group B Streptococcus , or Kiebsiella pneumoniae?
or
Wiki states that Kiebsiella pneumoniae is found in the’ normal flora of the mouth’…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klebsiella_pneumoniae
but yet it goes on to say that it can cause Klebsiella pneumonia …

I checked the information from the lab and they recommend a more detailed test: specifically a comprehensive Clostridium culture, or toxigenic C. difficile DNA test.
I’ll be following this up with my doc…

#38

How much was the test mate please and who did you use?

#39

ChrisC

Can’t remember the exact cost - think it was around £250.
It was one of the first tests recommended by my doc (Dr.McGovern).

The test was done by Breakspear hospital pathology.
Tel 0044 1442 867 286
When phoning, ensure that your test will include a DNA test. This is the test that -JN- is specifically recommending in this thread

I’m not sure if my tests included the DNA test though, i’m going to phone and check.

#40

Thanks for that.

#41

Noniman,

Look, I think you got the wrong test. Please get stool DNA parasitology test done.
Of note, I don’t think you should have yeast growing in your GI tract. Please check your body temperature.

You need to get

  1. Stool DNA parasitology test
  2. Live blood microscopy

Thanks

JN

#42

HI JN - I have checked my body temperature it is 36.5 degress…its normal?
are you practicing as a DR now?..where are you located?..I want to have a formal consultation with you…I Am in Australia…do you do sykpe consultations?..when you are talking about DR Greg Emerson are you referring to the Dr in Spring hills QLD Australia?..should I consult him?..I am very interested in approaching your theory.
please contact me at Llewellyn_samuels@hotmail.com
0415140917

#43

-JN- no longer practises as a doctor. If you must get similiar treatment/protocol, I think the next best choice is Dr.Greg Emerson. I haven’t read on him at all but I figured he taught him a lot of the same stuff he talked about.

#44

Please - listen to reason. Don’t waste your money on this shit. Its not parasites. Give you money to the Foundation so we can get more research funded. We already have Harvard and Baylor on our side…don’t fall for this bullshit.

#45

How would parasites be causing this problem?

Can someone break down the logic behind y a DHT inhibiter could cause parasites

#46

It cant, show me a chronic fatigue patient who has muscle atrophy , face atrophy or penis numbness, shrinkage.

#47

Honest question: How would parasites/pathogens be able to explain the many temporary recoveries many members experience while following very strict protocols? Like why would you feel better randomly for like a week and then lose the recovery and not able to gain it back? Like did the pathogens suddenly go into remission and then after a week came back to full strength? As someone that is not against pathogens ideologically, that doesn’t make a lot of sense.

#48

Why did the parasites not cause these problems before we took a DHT inhibiter?

Why are we more likely to have parasites after taking a DHT inhibiter?

How can taking a DHT cause us to suddenly have parasites?

Many people have parasites living in them… And have no ED.

I’ll let a 20 pound snake live in me than deal with this crap any day of the week

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#49

This stool / parasitology business is a load of nonsense and completely discredits us. Merck would be proud.

#50

Agree, this is bullshit. If you got something it was due to weakened body. Fin caused that, no doubt.

#51

this thread should be deleted. Its a disgrace.

#52

Hi, I do still practice as a medical doctor and have done so interrupted since 2002. I’m proud of this.
I believe systemic parasites are central to our suffering. I agree it doesn’t make sense that they should be, but the theory, which is proffered by say, Dr Greg Emerson, is as follows;

  • Finasteride causes adrenal fatigue (burned out cortisol +/- DHEA levels and formation of inactive thyroid hormone rt3). This lowers your body temperature. Systemic parasites set in (like rot in a house) at a lowered body temperature (there is scientific literature that proves this). One needs to obliterate parasites in order to get better.

It is essential to do the following tests:

  • stool DNA parasitology test
  • Blood electron microscopy
  • Saliva cortisol
  • Saliva DHEA
  • Serum reverse t3 levels
  • Serum zinc
  • Serum copper

Please check your body temperature. Go to the body temperature thread. You’ll find that virtually all sufferers have a low body temperature.

I have made a full recovery from finasteride. It took me 12 years. You need to do above tests to get better.

Take care

JN