Interesting.
Besides the andractim, did you do anything else?
Is this also your first regimen to try and recover?
Yes it is my first real attempt. Urologists gave me tadalafil, but it never changes anything, except for ED but of course it was temporary.
I take BHB and Sodium Butyrate too (@MOONCHILD). And I try to do some exercises (jump rope).
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After the second month.
Nothing revolutionnary. But my semen is sicker than a month before. It seems that my sex sometimes hang properly. I felt few times (like 3/4) an excitement, with a person and watching porn, but with no physical response (an erection, not even a semi-hard). But the day I felt excited with porn, masturbation was really appreciable and orgasm was really nice too. It was like one week ago.
My body seems in better shape, and my skin is slightly more oily, but I donāt know if itās the treatment or the weather nowā¦
2 months 1/2 into the treatment.
It gets hard to cope these days. Wake up in tears and despair. This condition is very tiring mentally, it is hard for me to put a part of my life on ābreakā (meeting boys, sexual intercoursesā¦). Iām quite suicidal those days, but try to keep hanging on.
I seem to have morning erection pretty regulary these days. But the erections are weaks and donāt last. I also felt excited by watching two people having sex at the cinema. But itās like some bloodflow in the penis, like 10%, not even a semi-hard).
My penis seems to be in better shape too, but ofc far away from cure.
My frustration is the incapacity of knowing if itās the action of the treatment itself, or the treatment improving my symptoms. But I wonāt know until the withdrawal in 3 months now.
Iāve started a waterfast. Itās been 17 hours, and itās already hard hahaā¦
I plan to stay on the fast for 5 days.
Keep it up bro. Any improvement are good signs. I did a 56 hour waterfast which I believe led to my first recovery after refeeding and fasting again for 20 hours the next day
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@eskimojoe: The pharmacy āApotheke zum goldenen Reichsapfelā in Vienna is selling Andractim and they send it to you if you have a prescription. You could send it to them via E-Mail and then they send the Andractim back to you after you paid the bill.
So, itās been 3 months.
I did an update two weeks ago, so Iāll be really short tonight.
The improvements are still minimal; but seems to happen more frequently.
Always hard to cope, but these days were very dark. This condition is an obstacle to live a love/sexual life which seems to be impossible to overcome. Hope youāre all ok.
Love.
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I come closer to the fourth month mark.
Wellā¦
My penis seems to be in better shape. Gained in bloodflow, some a little bit thicker, and hanging more properly. Not 100%, but I think I can see some improvements.
I had those times when I wanted sex. But thatās rare And not really an urge I could experience before. So sexually, itās not it.
Mentally, Iām so down. It becomes really hard to survive.
I forgot to say.
Iām on an intermittent fasting (plan to do it for 1 month). And I take sodium butyrate everyday.
Hey.
Iāve started Joe Koolās protocol since one month. Iām using low dose HCG (260 UI 3 times a week).
I didnāt feel anything the first weeks of course. And the little things Iāve noticed happened recently.
There is no change in erection quality, morning erections and stuff. My nipples were sensitive (one day very sensitive) but now itās gone. I assume it was because of my estradiol increasing. It was kind of pleasurable. When it was sensitive, Iāve noticed some libido, like butterflies in the genitals area, the feeling I used to have sometimes when I started having an erection back then. Of course, with no physical response (=no erection).
My brain fog seems less severe (never been really severe tho, but I guess itās improving), and less frequent. During the two days my nipples were sensitive, I had less fatigue, but now itās back unfortunately.
Itās still very early, but wanted to write down the process, Iāll do it next month too.
Love.
So itās been 3 months, and thereās no signs of improvementsā¦
Feeling really depressed those days. Sincerely, I canāt handle this anymore.Itās very hard to hold on.
Are you still on DHT and HCG?
Using DHT cream will shut your own production of T down and thus remove all estrogens.
If youāre using HCG with the DHT cream it should be fine though.
If possible you could also try to add some Progesterone because itās metabolites are known to be low in PFS sufferers.
Progesterone will decrease if for example you use TRT and I believe it might be why some guys on TRT feel worse.
Although you should discuss this with your doctor first. I am not a doctor and just theorizing.
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No I used DHT cream for 6 months, and now Iām using HCG alone.
I consider quitting the HCG, as Iām feeling breast sensivity/pain, and I think Iām developing a mild gynecomastia.
But I just donāt know what to do next, and to be fair, treatments are keeping me alive, because it brings some hope. Even if it does not work, of course.
Iām feeling so alone, this is a nightmare.
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Hi,
I am sorry to hear that DHT and HCG didnāt work for you, our symptoms are very similar, I also suffered from no libido, ED and lack of motivation, etc. Right now I am trying proviron and maybe I am gonna try bupropion or growth hormone, and give my body sometime, If the things do not improve in 2-3 years, I will get a penile implant surgery to just restart my life. donāt be desperate cause penile implant can be the last defend, I never be suicidal after I determined this and know that I still get a last defend. life will be good and worth living if we can regain our sex life back.
Hope that my plan can give you some inspiration and relief.
Best wishes and take care,
Hanru.
i feel you. keep in mind your not alone in this. hope is what keeps me going as well.
Almost a year, and absolutely nothing changed. Iām a more suicidal than ever.
The thing is I donāt know what to do know, Iāve tried HCG twice, DHT too. I think Iāll talk about pregnenolone or DHEA with my endo. But I canāt help but feel like Iām at the end of something, it gets just too tiring.
I do sport 3x /week. But idkā¦ My life is just boring and painful,
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