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#21

As I don’t experience any noticable progress in my recovery in last time, I decided to do bloodtests. Have been today, so I have to wait a little for results. As soon as I will get any of them, I will post them in bloodtests section.

My current condition:
-still getting erection very slowly
-rare erections during day
-morning erections are usually not as strong as they used to be
-small mind->penis communication (depends on day and time - vary from almost 0% to about 80% during erection - usually about 25% - of course these are my estimation, as it impossible to measure it somehow:) ).

No other side effects observed.

Currently in my recovery protocol:
-gym
-a lot of sleep
-ginseng
-ZMA
-omega 3
-Essentiale Forte

#22

Link to my bloodtests: propeciahelp.com/forum/viewt … =5734#5734

#23

Nowadays, I feel a little progress in my recovery. It seems that I have slighty better mental contant with my penis. Sometimes I have it, sometimes no, but definitely it is more often that 1 month ago. This also helps to reach erection easier and faster.

As indicated in my bloodtests, it’s very likely that all these is due extremely elevated progesteron and some other liver imbalances. I thinking when I should repeat bloodtests in such case. How long should I wait? 1 month,2 months or maybe longer?

#24

Peres! Get rid of this ZMA…!! It will not help you restore your DHT. ZMA elevates testosteron, but not neceserely help in the conversion from T-DHT. Keep ypur ginseng regimen and some essentiale forte. Remember that these suplements may mess up with your liver, so if you want to make it work right, give it a chance, instead of popping another pills.

You should reduce carbs and sugar this is what I definetely noticed that help. When I reduced sugar to zero, reduced carbs from potato, bread, fruits, I am feeling much better and sleep much better so the itchy scalp is comming back and so the sex drive returned up to 50% as it was pre fin/dut…

Keep some essential forte (not too much), and give all the rest a break!

Your body, digestive system needs to get a rest instead of being rapped by anything…

#25

Ok, thanks for advice. It’s good to hear that you have such a progress in recovery.

I’ve already put away ZMA, after my bloodtests results.
I’m also starting to feel itchy scalp. Good to know it is a good sign:)

Next week I have an appointment with endocrynologist, but honestly saying I don’t know if it can by anyhow helpful for me.

#26

I visited World wide guru of endocrynologists Prof.Dr. Stefan Zgliczyński. I waited for the visit 2 months. He looked at by blood tests (available in the blood test section) and he threw it into rubish. He said that it will all be ok. no matter if it is going to take 2,3,4 years I will come back on track.

He did not pay any attantion to my elevated progesteron.

You will not make any progress with endos, because it is not the area that you should be concerned of. Endos with their treatments will only get your whole situation worse, devastating your liver functions.

I think we should all follow the advices of Paul Waters, who put much attention to the sleep pattern and cutting on blood sugar and fatts. I follow his advices and got a real progress right now.

#27

Yesterday, I had an appointment with endo. I gave him my bloodtest results.

As I thought, he didn’t help too much and took a lot of money for the visit.

But there were good news also.

He checked my testicles and breast - everything looks ok. Checked also if my liver is not swollen - everything seems right.

When I told him my story, he admit that it is quite unusual and interesting for him. Contrary to urologyst I visited in past, he was listening to me.

I suggested, problems with my liver are purpose of elevated progesterone. He admit that this is possible, but also very unusual. Endo told me that my billirubines above range are nothing serious and more important is that my ALT and AST are within range. As I told about my changes in lifestyle and diet to help recover liver, he told that probably my liver should be already quite ok (2 weeks passed since bloodtests) and that progesterone should be returning to normal level now.

However, he underlined that this is possible theory, but there might be also something else. Told me, he would research this case, he xero my results, took some notes and we sheduled another appointment on 10th March. I will do then new bloodtests and he will tell me if he found out something more on my case. At least I will have new results and this time I won’t have to pay for them as I’ve prescription for next visit from social doctor (so it would be refunded).

#28

BTW, Last time while I was dwelling through some old posts on the forum, I found that somebody mentioned about using zapper against bacteria. There were also few words about zapper in link from majkellos, which was in Polish. Do you have any experiences with using zapper?

Actually, I have zapper on my own. My mother bought it few months ago. In general I’m quite sceptic about how it works, but maybe I could try it. Haven’t done any serious reaserch on it yet, so I would appreciate any thoughts or experiences if somebody used it.

#29

I’m really happy I can write about getting some progress. For last 5 days I have less problems with ED. I can get erections easier and faster, it is easier to maintain them. I’m not close to what I used to have before finasteride, but I’m pretty sure I’m step closer. I almost sure I’m able to have a sex.

Ok. Going to the point. What could help me so far?(Those are only my suppositions):

-About 2 weeks ago I decided to give a try to melatonine. It really helps me to get a better sleep. I get much stronger morning erections since I started taking it. During day I’m full of positive energy.

-I’m also taking Permen (ginseng, L-arginine, tribulis). As I was taking ginseng earlier without feeling any improvement, I will bet that arginine could help.

-I’m also trying to improve blood circulation by different massages and stimulations. Each day in the evening I stimulate myself to get the erection and try to keep it as long as possible. Each odd day I allow myself to ejaculate. Each day I also do some simple massage of the area above genitals and I do soft presses on testicles. Maybe it strange, but I always get the feeling that this drill somehow turns on my testicles. I read about it in a book about chinese erotic and sexual techniques etc. Currently, such stimulation (dozen of soft testicles presses) is enough for me to get almost full erection. If anyone is interested in more details about this exercises and what exactly is written in book I read, just ask me.

-Maybe it is coincidence, but I got this improvement the time I got second blood test results which indicate that I have higher Free T than before and lower prolactin.

-time … maybe yes, maybe not. For about 3 months I had no real improvement except right after quitting.

Right now I’m pretty sure that all this shit touched me somehow psychologically. It is difficult to explain this feeling but… I’m now all the time in state that I don’t know if it is going in right direction or improvement is only for a moment. I all the time trying to ‘feel it’ and I almost expect to have a strong erection all the time. When I’m watching some porno, I’m always afraid in my head if I will feel something and get erection. So far I have no idea how to get rid of this. Probably I need to get a lot of confidence it is getting better. Fortunately, my brother is a psychologyst, he will give me some ideas or contact to good therapeutist, if necessary.

Right now I want to continue with:
-workouts at gym
-melatonine
-permen
-fish oil
-massage,stimulation and similar drills.
-…and thinking about having sex. But I’m still afraid of failure.

#30

Today I had a visit with doctor sexologist/psychiatrist.

I’m really impressed, because she was the most listening doctor I’ve met so far. She listened to my whole story, asked many additional questions about my medical and psychological past, relationships, family etc.

During conversation I knew she is a specialist in a subject, contrary to urologists and endo I visited before.

She checked my blood results, prostate, responses to some stimulations, blood work in penis.Told me that everything there is OK.

I suffer only from difficulties with getting erection (I have night and morning erections), and her opinion is that currently the problem is on psychological level. I asked about other similar cases with finasteride and the answer was that there were people who had sides due to fina for about 6 months.

It is difficult for me, to decline possibilty of psychological issues, having almost everything ok, no other sides, etc.

Doctor suggested suplementing with Zinc and Magnesium and what is most important to give myself a mental break from the problem. It means of course not visiting this forum for some time :slight_smile:

As I don’t have too many better ideas than to follow her advice, I will take a break from forum. I think I will be back in about 1,5 month (then I will have another visit with her) and I will post how the things are going.

In case if anybody have some additional question, I will come back here in few hours. Then I will be back about end of June.

Good luck with recovery to all of you.

#31

As i replied in another topic, if your bloodwork is fine and nothing is wrong physically and you get morning erections, the problem is pretty likely psychological. Good luck, I’m sure you’ll be able to put this mess behind you.