I would be more than happy to handle this problem in person my South American friend. Actually I do get paid to think, but not about what you comes out your mouth cause its non-sense.
Guys (both) please stop this. We are here to resolve our issue which has destroyed our lives. Please stop fighting like kids.
Agreed.
Sp you are right… But this guy has hijacked my thread.
And I’ll play the little troll games too if that’s how he wants to do it. Throwing useless insults at eachother endlessly as pointless as it is.
5 weeks now on doxycycline and fluconazole … no improvements in symptoms what so ever. In fact my depression is worse but thats probably just more due to a mood swing.
Minipres???
Had a slew of blood tests run this morning. 6 vials of blood taken… I’ll have the results in a few weeks. Should be interesting to compare my results from 3 months off to now 21 months off fina.
Gent’s,
I have some, not all of the results from my recent blood test and there are some disturbing results to say the least. Let me first say this is the first time I had Vit D tested and do not know what it was before finasteride or right after I got off finasteride. If any of you remember when I got off finasteride my Testosterone (total) was consistently over 800 (250-1100) for 6 months after use… it has now been 21 months OFF finasteride and here are just a few of the results from my recent test, with more pending:
Vitamin D, 25-OH, Total: 16 L (30-100 ng/ml)
Testosterone, Total: 484 (lowest it’s ever been, 250-1100 ng/dl)
Testosterone, Free 103.2 (46-224)
SHBG: 17 (10-50)
IGF 1: 169 (63-373)
DHT: 38 (16-79)
IGF binding protein: 3.9 (3.4-7.8)
FSH: 3.9 (3.4-7.8)
GROWTH HORMONE <0.1 (< or = 10.0)
LH: 3.7 (1.5-9.3)
Estradiol: 18 (<39)
Wow, a 50% drop in testosterone levels, insanely low Vitamin D and SUPER AMAZING LOW Growth Hormone!
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE???
One Hint: Pituitary Gland… I have a feeling this is also part of the puzzle…the brain isnt working as it should.
I’d say all of this stuff is just pointing more and more to auto immune disorder targeting androgens or possIbly the anfrogen receptor Itself. BTW I just popped 14, 000 iu of vitamin d 3.
Vitamin D[Size=4]3[/size] works synergistically with progesterone to restore brain function. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progestero … treatments
God who knows how low my vitamin d was when I came off if it’s this low now.
Its amazing the amount of men here who are vit d deficient. This has to do something with pfs.
Seems to be a recurring pattern, similar to reported loss of response to androgens in many men post-drug.
Probably not coincidental considering both androgen receptor and Vitamin D receptor are both members of the Nuclear Receptor Superfamily (which includes others as well)
my vitamin d was the same before and after propecia… not that high…
Growth Hormone is supposed to be very very low. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone_deficiency IGF is used as an indirect measure of GH.
The ‘Gold Standard’ for determining the integrity of the hypothalamo-pituitary-adrenal axis and GH response is an Insulin Tolerance Test. Ask your endocrinologist!
Second Amendment…thats all part of my theory…low levels of vitamin D = low progesterone. low progesterone causes estrogen dominance…estrogen dominance premotes histamine release.
Propeciashiz- very interesting…no extremely interesting that you had very low vitamin D before propecia. I am going to go out on a limb and say that your progesterone could have possibly been low. Now for others that scream they have high progesterone…cortisol blocks histamine receptors so even in if you test normal to high, your actuall levels can be low.
Dr. Brian Skop:
14815 San Pedro Avenue San Antonio, TX 78232
(210) 493-6824
I don’t think there are many of you in Texas but this idiot’s opinion is that we all have “mania” and are obsessed with our numb penises. He’s a psychiatrist who disregards all facts that Propecia causes any mental problems… Dr. Irwig, Dr. Traish and Dr. Jacobs should all personally write him… and educate him.
It is interesting that you write that. When I saw Dr. John Muhall in Manhattan, he said he could not tell me what PFS was, but he said that many men seem “obsessed with their penis’s” I honestly did not know how to respond to that comment.
I saw Muhall too over a year ago… complete and utter waste of time he doesn’t believe in PFS, even though he respects Dr. Jacobs.
Idiot doesn’t realize the condition effects the entire body.
The only difference is that Skop actually hurt me with his complete lack of knowledge about NOW WIDELY known finasteride side effects. Feel free to write him including copies of Dr. Irwig’s and Dr. Traish’s studies. I would myself but I can’t… would be better coming from other sufferer’s.