Most interesting study: please discuss

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24959691

Finasteride is an inhibitor of 5-α-reductase used against male androgenetic alopecia (AGA). Reported side effects of finasteride comprise sexual dysfunction including erectile dysfunction, male infertility, and loss of libido. Recently these effects were described as persistent in some subjects. Molecular events inducing persistent adverse sexual symptoms are unexplored. This study was designed as a retrospective case-control study to assess if androgen receptor (AR) and nerve density in foreskin prepuce specimens were associated with persistent sexual side effects including loss of sensitivity in the genital area due to former finasteride use against AGA. Cases were 8 males (aged 29-43 years) reporting sexual side effects including loss of penis sensitivity over 6 months after discontinuation of finasteride who were interviewed and clinically visited. After informed consent they were invited to undergo a small excision of skin from prepuce. Controls were 11 otherwise healthy matched men (aged 23-49 years) who undergone circumcision for phimosis, and who never took finasteride or analogues. Differences in AR expression and nerve density in different portions of dermal prepuce were evaluated in the 2 groups. Density of nuclear AR in stromal and epithelial cells was higher in cases (mean 40.0%, and 80.6% of positive cells, respectively) than controls (mean 23.4%, and 65.0% of positive cells, respectively), P = 0.023 and P = 0.043, respectively. Conversely, percentage of vessel smooth muscle cells positive for AR and density of nerves were similar in the 2 groups. The ratio of AR positive stromal cells % to serum testosterone concentrations was 2-fold higher in cases than in controls (P = 0.001). Our findings revealed that modulation of local AR levels might be implicated in long-term side effects of finasteride use. This provides the first evidence of a molecular objective difference between patients with long-term adverse sexual effects after finasteride use versus drug untreated healthy controls in certain tissues.

This gets directly at the loss of sensitivity which affects most PFS sufferers.

I NEED THE FULL STUDY, anyone has access? Too bad the “studies” section is locked…

I don’t understand why cases have more AR, so the body makes more due to loss of androgens, then …? how can that explain loss of sensitivity…

We need to contact these researchers and encourage them to do more…

Or share with them that some of our sensitivity is better, like mine

You mean it has improved? Cause the scary think in the article is one of the hypotheses which stiuplates that low dht has caused irreversabale aging…scary…

YES! It has almost completely reversed. It was horrible for two years, I would have 3 weeks numb dick, then 2 days of sensitivity, then bang…back to numb dick. It was so bad. No maybe 1 or 2 days a month I feel it, but the majority almost full sensitivity

wow, this is what we are not waiting. :slight_smile:
maybe i am better than my pre-fin then

I wish there were more people with academic mind on here, i mean even hair loss forums have more intelligent conversations. Finatruth this is not aimed at you, the improvement in sensitivity you got is great news! (Please post link to your story so i read how).

I d like to see more intelligent conversation. My background is not in biology. But this is a good clue as to what is happening. I am taking this paper with me to see the doctors.

Yes we need to contact these researchers. Damn i would be willing to contribute to a fund that will directly support their future research on the topic…

You do realise such a fund already exists right?

He(and others) apparently don’t. They also don’t realize the research Harvard and Baylor are doing RIGHT NOW are funded by that organization.

I’m trying not to take offense to this, but it’s difficult. Maybe I’m not understanding it correctly because I’m not “academic” enough.

Here’s the only “intelligent” thing you need to know: IF YOU HAVEN’T ALREADY, GO DO THE FUCKING STUDIES.

is this what Awor has been telling us, AR upregulation?