Consider seeing Shippen or Crisler? Honestly we’re all in the same boat, hence this forum to share information and tips which may help.
Your bloodwork revealed somewhat mid-range/lowish Total Testosterone, so that may be playing a role in the loss of libido.
You might want to try T boosting supplements like Tribulus or Tongkat Ali per sticky posts in NATURAL SUPPLEMENTS section in meantime, and hit the gym.
Yeah I feel better when I go to the gym and more horny. I don’t believe I really need to go see Chrisler, just think I need to have a more consistent approach in be more healthy.
Like I am able to have sex and masturbate and use a low dose or Viagra at times but for me the more important thing is not feeling “normal” most days in the genital region which I can’t really explain, just like sometimes I feel the need to masturbate to make myself feel normal. It’s weird. Does anyone else experience this?
I am going to see a psychiatrist this week on Thurs and tell him about all this. Do you think that is a good idea? AS well next week going to see a world renowned urologist in Brooklyn. I will see how he responds to all this… Please let me know what you think.
It is really unbelievable that some men here only took the medication for DAYS, fucking DAYS?!!! and are experiencing these long term side effects.
I took it for years and didn’t notice anything drastic til this past spring. The changes I felt we subtle at first and then became worse one day.
I just can’t understand how I experienced a long recovery (more than five months) and how symptoms have returned (not as bad). I truly feel physically different, lower hanging balls and no horniness at all.
Its like I don’t even know what normal feels like anymore. I look at my life now as a before/after Finasteride. I look at my calendar at work and see the days I took off seeing doctors and having a nervous breakdown.
I would give anything to give this away. It has taken so much from my quality of life. I’m sick of taking supplements and all this other shit. I’m tired of fighting back tears, tired of feeling different and tired of causing so much grief to my parents/girlfriend. I’m sick of saying “Ok” to people when they ask how I feel. I’m sick of drinking to mask the problem at times. I’m sick of not being able to put 100% into the things in my life that need serios attention. I’m sick of jerking off to feel normal, sick of not being horny, sick of being at work looking at this website.
Pardon the rant…
Mikey, I agree with you.
So where is your 3 Adiol G test result?
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JN
I am getting the test this coming week. But how do we know this is even an accurate measure of things. I read so many conflicting statements about it. But I’m getting it and will post the results.
This is just really getting to me. I can’t take this anymore. I haven’t started clomid yet becasue I am detoxifying my body from all toxins first
for at least a week.
I am tired all the fucking time and everyday not feeling right sexually/down there is fucking killing me. I have ceased to be myself. I look forward to going to sleep.
You can imagine the affect this has on my girlfriends/family. its brutal. This saps one’s manhood… i just can’t take it . I’m fucking sitting here at work almost in fucking tears about how i feel dayto day…
Hang in there man you’re a lot better off than many of us! One day justice will be ours!
I’ve been worse lately. I am just really fucked up in the head which obviously also affects sexual desire/function. I stopped jerking off yesterday becasue I have absolutely no desire to and just want to see if maybe that helps.
I definitely don’t want to fail at jerking off and then have my nuts hurt. Has this happened to you?
I was just talking with my girlfriend and she suggested maybe wellbutrin/Pristiq as an anti-depressant ot maybe help get me out of this funk. Anybody try pristiq?
As far as the Clomid is concerned does thta affect the structure of your penis/balls? Mine are fine I just don’t want to have a huuge sack.
After a couple of weeks of pretty good functioning, I have seem to hit a wall. Not sure if it that the clomid is not working as well, estrogen rising too high or my head is totally fucked up which it is.
It will be a year to the day the last time I took Propecia as well as the ensuing agony that lasted the first two weeks off and then returned after about five months. My erectile quality is not good right now and what compounds this is that I am going to see my girlfriend this weekend in another state. Totally feeling like garbage. don’t know how to proceed or where to turn…such a tightrope, my nerves are FRIED.
After seeing a very good psychiatrist, seemingly this is what occurred in my situation. Namely that the propecia induced side effects caused me to develop an anxiety disorder similar to OCD whereupon I am constantly concerned about my physical health (how my dick works, how my erections are, how I am feeling etc).
The problem is such that my brain is almost locked in that I ritually masturbate to test how I am feeling and it relieves my anxiety somewhat but the anxiety returns and it can be a vicious cycle. This behavior I feel is a symptom of my underlying propecia problem.
Just not really sure how to proceed from here as it affects me daily and really do not want to go on antidepressants or whatever my psych might prescribe but I will broach that subject when it comes up in our subsequent sessions. Just want to break the cycle.
Not really sure why I am posting this, just putting it out there. I guess because I wanted to see how some of you deal with anxiety etc.
Thanks.
Mickey428,
With all do respect I’m sure you have anxiety problems caused from propecia, but I doubt it has anything to do with the sexual problems your having. This is a product of screwed up hormones and more likely a disruption in the HPTA axis.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t but all I know is that is has been a gradual process. My anxiety is directly correlated to how I feel and more importantly how I don’ t feel so it is like I need to take reponsibility for how I am not feeling by masturbating, fretting etc…Here is a passage from Dr. Mariano’s forum that crystallizes my situation:
Rearding excessive masturbation:
In thinking about this issue, I currently believe excessive masturbation is not the primary problem. Excessive masturbation is a symptom or a manifestion of the problem, which I will call the pathophysiology. It is this pathophysiology which then leads to hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis dysregulation and other “damage”, which are then blamed on masturbation as the obvious external target, when it is not the primary problem.
This is somewhat analogous to or even the same issue as hypersexuality as a symptom or manifestation of the manic phase of bipolar disorder. What is interesting is that, even then, bipolar disorder is also not the primary problem. Bipolar disorder is one possible outcome of the underlying pathophysiology of bipolar disorder. Other possible outcomes of this underlying pathophysiology include other mood disorders (including anxiety disorders), heart disease, diabetes, hypertension, stroke, etc. Interestingly, these also occur more frequently concurrently with bipolar disorder. For example, diabetes occurs three times more often in people with bipolar disorder than in people without bipolar disorder. This lead me to hypothesize that bipolar disorder and diabetes are manifestations of the same underlying pathophysiology - i.e. they are two sides of the same coin, the same illness. This is an idea that confuses nearly all doctors I discuss this issue with since they can’t see the link.
Thus, the correct question is: what is the pathophysiology of excessive masturbation? Once this is identified, one then asks, what is the outcome of this pathophysiology? Then you will have the answer.
Mikey, orgasms with me cause anxiety. The more I have them the worse it is. If you are habitually masturbating then it’s likely you are bringing more anxiety to your life.
The doctor is probably right about the cause but it’s irrelevant. The effect is masturbation brings anxiety for me.
Do you still get pleasure from orgasm? I mostly just get anxiety and muscle spasms.